Robbie Lawler: Mayweather wouldn't last 2 minutes with any top UFC fighter

[New England]

Here these UFC bums go again.

The dude is retired. He is an afterthought in the current landscape of boxing.

Why are they always bringing up boxing? **** off.

i think it's pretty obvious that they're instructed to do it by the UFC. we're on a boxing forum talking about them. it's working.

[New England]

Im sick of these UFC employees talking crap about boxing to spread their names. The truth is any boxer can learn how to check a kick, avoid takedown and how to stand up. It wouldn't take long right? But for them to box like boxers would take a lifetime just as their Ronda proved.
It's like douchebag chilren who training in a gym and telling people that they can beat everyone's ass.

i htink you'd be surprised, actually. they'd have a great base for standing up, but thaty's it. they'll actually have a lot of muscle memory that they need to reverse. you can't stand in MMA the way you do in boxing, especially at jus tbeyond arm's reach. you'll never react to a takedown in time. you've eitehr got to hit them with something big, or you're going to be on your back and asking for permission to breath, use your arms, etc.


it's especially technical to avoid submissios when you're already onyour back. and i'm sorry, just because somebody sprinked some mythical boxing pixie dust on them, doesn't meant they're going to be able to stuff takedowns from world class wrestlers, judokas, bjj givers []

[Ham Porter]

whatever you say


good to see that you didn't address any fo the rest of the post that talk about why couture would be physically depleted at 47 years old to the degree that you can't simply dicount toney's performance based on the contrast in age / deterioration.

they were both way, way past their best. and i completely disagree on lesnar. couture wasn't massive, but lesnar could hardly take a punch, and i have no reservations about picking him to stop lesnar when he wasn't in his mid 40's.

Couture wasn't anywhere near as physically deteriorated as Toney is/was. He'd never suffered any serious injuries, always kept himself in great shape and didn't start fighting until his mid 30's and didn't peak until his early 40's. Toney was a literal punch drunk with actual brain damage. Comparing the two is ****ing ridiculous on every level.

So when does Couture beat him? When he was getting beaten down by smaller, far less decorated and athletic wrestlers than Lesnar? Or when he was getting tapped by journeymen? There was no point in his career where he'd beat a mammoth like Lesnar (especially the healthy version that Couture fought.)

[Ruthless One]

The sky is blue. Water is wet.

I like boxing and other combat sports as much as the next guy, but let's be real -- a fighter who only knows how to do one thing will have a high chance of losing against a fighter who knows how to do many things.

Let's remove boxing from the equation for a moment since this is a boxing forum and the bias is apparent. Now, if a pure wrestler or a karateka or a TKD practitioner went up against a MMA fighter, who do you think will win? Common sense says the MMA fighter has more tools to use in a fight vs. a fighter from a pure or traditional combat style.

[New England]

Couture wasn't anywhere near as physically deteriorated as Toney is/was. He'd never suffered any serious injuries, always kept himself in great shape and didn't start fighting until his mid 30's and didn't peak until his early 40's. Toney was a literal punch drunk with actual brain damage. Comparing the two is ****ing ridiculous on every level.

So when does Couture beat him? When he was getting beaten down by smaller, far less decorated and athletic wrestlers than Lesnar? Or when he was getting tapped by journeymen? There was no point in his career where he'd beat a mammoth like Lesnar (especially the healthy version that Couture fought.)

whenever he gets to the worst chin of any major player in MMA history at HW.

you don't remember how crap his chin was, do you ? he'd literally start to roll around on the ground like he was on fire, when he got hit. fighting was foreign completely foreign to him. it was almost like he felt the need to spin around himself when the room started to spin the guy had hardly and fights, and could be easily rattled.

you can discount that couture had been in the UFC since the 90's, and that he had been an athlete at a top level since he was a kid in a brutal sport [wrestling.] lesnar is 15 years younger than he is, IIRC.

[Bigg Rigg]

Robbie Lawler of all ppl does not want any extra attention. You can bank on that. I'm pretty sure he was asked about Floyd and just answered the question.

[BigAlexSand]

Again why do MMA fans bring up, "no boxer could beat an MMA fighter in an MMA match"... Well you would have to be a complete moron to think otherwise but why is it we always see these UFC fighters calling out Boxers to come the UFC, why not challenge yourself?

Currently, I would say if any current UFC champ went into the boxing ring and fought a 12 round fight with a current boxing champ; it would not end well for the UFC fighter. Imagine....
Werdum/Velasquez vs Fury/Wilder
Jones/Cormier vs Glowacki/Lebedev
Rockhold/Weidman vs Stevenson/Kovalev
Lawler/Hendricks vs Abraham/Degale
Dos Anjos/Pettis vs Golovkin/Alvarez
Mcgregor/Aldo vs Thurman/Bradley
Dillashaw/Barao vs Crawford/Broner
Johnson/Benavides vs Lomachenko/Russell Jr

[BigAlexSand]

whenever he gets to the worst chin of any major player in MMA history at HW.

you don't remember how crap his chin was, do you ? he'd literally start to roll around on the ground like he was on fire, when he got hit. fighting was foreign completely foreign to him. it was almost like he felt the need to spin around himself when the room started to spin the guy had hardly and fights, and could be easily rattled.

you can discount that couture had been in the UFC since the 90's, and that he had been an athlete at a top level since he was a kid in a brutal sport [wrestling.] lesnar is 15 years younger than he is, IIRC.

I love how people, MMA fans like to put Lesnar on a pedestal. The man was a freak show, the equivalent to Butterbean or best to compare Primo Carnera because he was exactly that... A freak show who should have never won a Title but did so because of physical attributes compared to his opposition. People forget how much the man Disliked being hit and how his reaction was to it... Hysterical at times.

Put a 25 year old Couture in with a 25 year old Lesnar.... The fight goes 50/50, possibly 70-30 in Coutures favor because of Lesnar lack of a chin and I'll say it, Coutures superior wrestling technique

[New England]

I love how people, MMA fans like to put Lesnar on a pedestal. The man was a freak show, the equivalent to Butterbean or best to compare Primo Carnera because he was exactly that... A freak show who should have never won a Title but did so because of physical attributes compared to his opposition. People forget how much the man Disliked being hit and how his reaction was to it... Hysterical at times.

Put a 25 year old Couture in with a 25 year old Lesnar.... The fight goes 50/50, possibly 70-30 in Coutures favor because of Lesnar lack of a chin and I'll say it, Coutures superior wrestling technique

agree.

once you get past his physical attributes [let's face it, the guy was a freak athlete,] he's got a bad chin and he's mentally soft. he was never a fighter. he was an athlete and a wrestler who was moved carefully to build the sport when it was lacking some top end HW talent.

[BigAlexSand]

agree.

once you get past his physical attributes [let's face it, the guy was a freak athlete,] he's got a bad chin and he's mentally soft. he was never a fighter. he was an athlete and a wrestler who was moved carefully to build the sport when it was lacking some top end HW talent.

Exactly!!!!! Couture was a truly better athlete but Lesnar was just more physically imposing. A younger Couture would have out classed Lesnar in his own game.

Now not saying Lesnar was a strong individual but the man didn't like to fight, what so ever! He gets hit clean, he will do a cartwheel across the octagon before putting his hands up waiting for a ref to call the fight, at times was lucky enough to have someone foolish enough to give him time to recover and attempt ground work. Ironic because lesser wrestlers were able to sprawl or get up quite efficiently against a man who was supposed to be this unstoppable wrestler. A record of 5-3, even in MMA is horrible.