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  • (UNEDITED) ...on Sugar Ray Leonard I did for BOXING NEWS (U.K.)

    “What separates the truly great champions from the other top guys is that little additional heart, a hidden reservoir of inner strength. All fighters possess it but the difference is what activates it, what forces you to want to fight that bit harder when you're already exhausted after 12, 13 rounds. Very few can call upon that in the later rounds. That, for me, is very significant." - Sugar Ray Leonard, 2006.


    Sugar Ray Leonard in my opinion was without a doubt one of the greatest fighters of all time, no question.

    If you ask my reasons for believing this, I could easily mention his underrated power, his electrifying hand speed, blazing flurries and combinations and ability to be get the job done against technical boxers, defensive wizards, powerful guys, short guys, strong guys and long and tall guys. I can mention his Olympic gold medal, his world titles in 5 weight classes and the fact that he defeated tremendous odds and the great Marvelous Marvin Hagler in his first fight back after a three year lay-off to win the middleweight crown back in 1987 with one history's all time great upsets.

    I can also mention the undisputed fact that he beat four bona-fide International Boxing Hall of Famers to come up the victor in four of the biggest fights in boxing history.

    For me, though, the one aspect of his game above all else is something that he not only had in abundance but that is also an intangible that some of the greatest fighters in history either didn't possess or never really proved whether they did or not. In a nutshell, the fact is that when he was on his game and he needed to dig down for that extra reserve of energy, power, hunger and heart, it was not only there in spades there but
    Ray Leonard was gifted with the rare ability to actually use it in a way that a very small percent of prize fighters are able to with spectacular results.

    Often times in a fight it seems such a simple task to some, to just throw hard punches when you're a bit tired and hurt. To overcome fatigue and desperate situations, to reach down through the doubt and exhaustion to get the job done when your mind is willing but your body feels unable to cooperate.

    I envy and admire Ray for that one intangible more than any other because as a fighter myself the fact is that I know first hand how extremely difficult it actually is. I can pinpoint exact moments in my own career where I literally had Ray's 13th and 14th round exhibitions of fury against Tommy Hearns back in 1981 pop into my head as I tried to use them for inspiration as I attempted to pull off similar displays of will.

    Of course I never quite was able to summon that level of energy and furious release that Ray did and it really just served to show me just one more of the many differences between levels of regular professional fighters and the legitimate greats.

    On that end, when deciding who the greatest fighters have been in history I believe it makes the most sense to look at who they beat and what they accomplished in their primes. For example, no one could rightfully use losing to Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick when he did to somehow diminish Muhammad Ali's standing in the annals of history just as no one has also ever foolishly dared use the numerous losses to solid journeymen and club fighters at the end of his career to lower the great Sugar Ray Robinson's place in the game.

    Keeping that in mind, when you look at the history of Sugar Ray Leonard you can clearly see that in his prime years his only defeat was the avenged one to the equally great Roberto Duran in an epic battle that actually proved in defeat Ray's extraordinary depth of character, heart and toughness.

    In the rematch he proved he had that special ability to adjust and follow a perfect game plan, one that saw him tame the untamable Duran at a time when that seemed a virtual impossibility.

    On that end, in a nut shell, if you run down the most used criteria for all-time greatness in regards to one Ray Charles Leonard you will clearly see he deserves his place among the very, very best.

    Power? Check. (See fights with Davey Boy Green, Donny La Londe and Tommy Hearns in 1981 for reference)

    Durability? Check. Finishing furiously against Duran in 1980 sealed this intangible in my eyes.

    Quality of opposition? No brainer.

    Heart? If withstanding the furiously powerful assault of 1980 Roberto Duran to the wire and overcoming the closed eye and the powerful fists of Hearns in 1981 in of history's biggest events aren't proof of a huge heart then nothing is.

    World titles? Welterweight, junior middleweight, middleweight, super middleweight and light heavyweight.

    Check.

    Fearless?

    Went in for his first world title against one of the slickest fighters in history.

    Faced a vicious and primed Duran.

    Rematched Duran after enduring the most grueling fight of his career, before or after.

    Faced the most feared welterweight of his era, Tommy Hearns.

    Came out of retirement to face one of the roughest and most respected fighters in history, Marvin Hagler, with no tune up fight.

    And won.

    I rest my case.

    ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY

  • #2
    Excellent read :ANYWORD:

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    • #3
      good read!

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      • #4
        AMEN! Perfect Post! Lived up to the hype & with a name like Sugar Ray that was not easy. Sugar Ray Lenard, without a doubt one of the all time greats...

        -Sugar Ray Lenrd

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        • #5
          Uninspired and frankly, dull.

          4/10 for effort, 2/10 overall.

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          • #6
            In before floyd fans somehow flip this

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            • #7
              One of my all time favorites, the guy was years ahead of everybody in his era as far as boxing IQ and mental toughness, he really had what I call championship qualities, he knew how to close the show. However there are some things that needed to be pointed out when it comes to the career accomplishments of Sugar Ray Leonard;

              I'll start with the 5 weight classes thing, people loved Sugar Ray too much because of his character, heart, will and a lot of the drama that he provided during his career, but they don't hold him to the same standards they hold fighters of today to, when you say he won titles in 5 different weight classes, keep in mind that he won the 168 and 175 titles in the same fight against the mediocre Donny Lalonde at 168, Lalonde was the WBC 175 lbs champ and he actually moved down 7 lbs for that fight and the 168 belt was vacant, so he definitley took advantage of the fact that he was the A side and imposed some conditions on this fight that would be considered cowardly by today's standards. a comparable situation in recent memory was when Dawson moved down to 168 to challenge Ward, even though Dawson was the one who wanted to move down to fight Ward at 168 and even though Dawson's 175 belts were NOT on the line, Ward had to endure a lot of criticism and backlash for that fight.

              Also, you talked about energy levels, but you probably didn't realize that back in the 80s, PED testing was almost non existent, you saw fighters at the time having physiques, stamina and power that we don't see fighters today have even though training techniques have improved a lot in the past 30 years, now PED testing is better and we frequently see fighters get caught, something that very seldom happened in the early 80s, I'm not saying they were all cheaters or anything, but I'm almost certain that there was a good number of fighters at the time who were using substances that would be labeled as PEDs by today's standards.

              One last thing, Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran and Hagler were fighting in the post Ali era where boxing was still a very popular almost main****** sport because of Muhammad Ali, he was bigger than boxing and he brought a lot of attention to the sport from people all over the world, and most fans hated heavyweight boxing post Ali because of Holmes, who nobody liked because of his attitude and his infamous fight with Ali, so the people that watched boxing at the time all paid attention to the other weight classes and the fab four were blessed to be around at the time, they were sold to the public as superheroes and people at the time weren't as critical as people today because there weren't as many options for entertainment at he time as nowadays, so people pretty much enjoyed everything these fighters did and focused on the positive, they didn't write fighters off once they lost and that gave fighters the motivation to take risks and to fight the best, nowadays one loss can really end your career becuase fans are way too picky and also scarce.

              Sorry for the long post.

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              • #8
                There are very few fighters who can step on the big stage time and time again and perform at the highest level, win, and give the fans their money's worth. I honestly can't think of too many fighters on that level, but Leonard was definitely one of them. He is the definition of a complete prize fighter. And with the exception of Ray Robinson, I can't think of any fighter of any era at 147 that could beat a prime Leonard in a 12 or 15 round fight.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dip_Slide View Post
                  One of my all time favorites, the guy was years ahead of everybody in his era as far as boxing IQ and mental toughness, he really had what I call championship qualities, he knew how to close the show. However there are some things that needed to be pointed out when it comes to the career accomplishments of Sugar Ray Leonard;

                  I'll start with the 5 weight classes thing, people loved Sugar Ray too much because of his character, heart, will and a lot of the drama that he provided during his career, but they don't hold him to the same standards they hold fighters of today to, when you say he won titles in 5 different weight classes, keep in mind that he won the 168 and 175 titles in the same fight against the mediocre Donny Lalonde at 168, Lalonde was the WBC 175 lbs champ and he actually moved down 7 lbs for that fight and the 168 belt was vacant, so he definitley took advantage of the fact that he was the A side and imposed some conditions on this fight that would be considered cowardly by today's standards. a comparable situation in recent memory was when Dawson moved down to 168 to challenge Ward, even though Dawson was the one who wanted to move down to fight Ward at 168 and even though Dawson's 175 belts were NOT on the line, Ward had to endure a lot of criticism and backlash for that fight.

                  Also, you talked about energy levels, but you probably didn't realize that back in the 80s, PED testing was almost non existent, you saw fighters at the time having physiques, stamina and power that we don't see fighters today have even though training techniques have improved a lot in the past 30 years, now PED testing is better and we frequently see fighters get caught, something that very seldom happened in the early 80s, I'm not saying they were all cheaters or anything, but I'm almost certain that there was a good number of fighters at the time who were using substances that would be labeled as PEDs by today's standards.

                  One last thing, Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran and Hagler were fighting in the post Ali era where boxing was still a very popular almost main****** sport because of Muhammad Ali, he was bigger than boxing and he brought a lot of attention to the sport from people all over the world, and most fans hated heavyweight boxing post Ali because of Holmes, who nobody liked because of his attitude and his infamous fight with Ali, so the people that watched boxing at the time all paid attention to the other weight classes and the fab four were blessed to be around at the time, they were sold to the public as superheroes and people at the time weren't as critical as people today because there weren't as many options for entertainment at he time as nowadays, so people pretty much enjoyed everything these fighters did and focused on the positive, they didn't write fighters off once they lost and that gave fighters the motivation to take risks and to fight the best, nowadays one loss can really end your career becuase fans are way too picky and also scarce.

                  Sorry for the long post.
                  Not too sure about fighters using PEDS in the 80's. As a former fighter mysel;f I've never heard of anything remotely close to that in the gym or locker rooms. I feel the boxing regimens are a little different. For instance just the other day in the locker room I heard one fighter mention that he doesn't do roadwork regularily...That's kind of crazy, especially in a sport where stamina & endurance happens to be a major part of the game. I mean you might have the strongest KO power in the world, but what have you if you hit guy with everything but the kitchen sink & he's still standing? I'll take stamina & endurance over everything else. But I disagree, fighters back then fought 15 round world title fights, so you had to train vigoriously for 15 rnds. Another thing most people don't realize is that back then you had only 2 world champions per wgt division as oppose to todays 4 (and if you count the IBO that's 5). What this signifies is that a fighter can become world champion by taking the easy way out by fighting the weakest boxer in terms of skill. Example if you want to become a world champion at welter wgt & your choice of champions to fight for the title are as follow ; Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, or Felix Sturm. Logically you will challenge Felix Sturm. In the early to mid 80" there were mainly 2 world champs per wgt div. There were other great fighters besides the "fab four" in that same wgt division like Benitez, Palomino, Pepino Cuervas...The so called Fab Four made it big because all of them dare to be great there was no ducking they all fought each other. Imagine if Cotto,Mayweather,Margarito,Paul William & Mosley all fought each other in their prime...but they didn't Mayweather retired...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jvsnypes View Post
                    There are very few fighters who can step on the big stage time and time again and perform at the highest level, win, and give the fans their money's worth. I honestly can't think of too many fighters on that level, but Leonard was definitely one of them. He is the definition of a complete prize fighter. And with the exception of Ray Robinson, I can't think of any fighter of any era at 147 that could beat a prime Leonard in a 12 or 15 round fight.
                    I also don't think it was a certain win for Robinson as well.....they were both superbly talented fighters and different eras produce different fighters....I would say it was a 50/50 fight.....Robiinson was not unbeatable and neither was Leonard but they were as close as it can get to it....Leonard was my idol and in 1981 he introduced me to boxing at a young boys age....and Ive loved boxing ever since

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