LOL, Billy Joe Saunders wants to fight Martin Murray

[Szef]

I analyzed you a long time. I'm just wondering if there's actually some logic behind your inconsistencies or should I just go ahead and judge this book by its cover.

If I'm right about you, it's stuff like this that turn good posters to trolls because it's impossible to rationalize with some of you guys.

You started crying about Haymon in a thread about a potential BJS/Murray fight and you're calling me a troll?

But I'll bite:

Martinez, Cotto were something BJS is not : lineal MW Champs who also happened to be high profile fighters. So yeah I was kind of upset when they ducked GGG.

Quillin at one point was a belt holder just like Saunders is now. Then he vacated that belt and that's when I lost all the interest I had in this fight.

I know, they both ducked Golovkin so why am I excusing BJS?

Because he openly admitted that he'd lose to Golovkin wheres Quillin openly stated that he wants to fight Golovkin on PPV in a Floyd/Pac type of event. Which obviously would've never happened. I hated that idiot and wanted to see him knocked out. Now thanks to Jacobs I got my wish.

Thanks for this fantastic session, doc. I'll PM you the cheque.

[Hougigo]

Ok, and Martinez fought Macklin, Barker, Murray and Cotto.

Cotto fought Canelo.

Quillin fought N'Dam and Lee.

What's the difference here and why is it ok?

He Vanilla, doe

So you're down with BJS vs Kerry Hope or BJS vs some polish journeyman?

[Chollo Vista]

So you're down with BJS vs Kerry Hope or BJS vs some polish journeyman?

Can you try to have an adult conversation or is everything about the "lols"?

I'm down for GGG vs Jacobs/Lara, especially since GGG is being ducked by BJS and there's an issue with the Canelo weight factor.

I'm down for Team Golovkin going to HBO/Haymon and attempting to negotiate a deal.

I am NOT down for GGG vs Taureno Johnson and Omar Chavez for 2016. Are you?

[Chollo Vista]

You started crying about Haymon in a thread about a potential BJS/Murray fight and you're calling me a troll?

But I'll bite:

Martinez, Cotto were something BJS is not : lineal MW Champs who also happened to be high profile fighters. So yeah I was kind of upset when they ducked GGG.

Quillin at one point was a belt holder just like Saunders is now. Then he vacated that belt and that's when I lost all the interest I had in this fight.

I know, they both ducked Golovkin so why am I excusing BJS?

Because he openly admitted that he'd lose to Golovkin wheres Quillin openly stated that he wants to fight Golovkin on PPV in a Floyd/Pac type of event. Which obviously would've never happened. I hated that idiot and wanted to see him knocked out. Now thanks to Jacobs I got my wish.

Thanks for this fantastic session, doc. I'll PM you the cheque.

So if you value what fighter's say through the media, then what do you say about Lara calling out GGG at 154 or 160?

Or Jacobs saying he'll fight GGG at 160 for the right $$$, whether it's 3 mil or less or anything negotiable?

Or how about Froch saying he'll fight GGG at 172?

I won't even mention Ward.

Or does everything have to be on GGG's terms?

[Hougigo]

Can you try to have an adult conversation or is everything about the "lols"?

I'm down for GGG vs Jacobs/Lara, especially since GGG is being ducked by BJS and there's an issue with the Canelo weight factor.

I'm down for Team Golovkin going to HBO/Haymon and attempting to negotiate a deal.

I am NOT down for GGG vs Taureno Johnson and Omar Chavez for 2016. Are you?

The **** you even talking about?

Alright, who was the last fighter from PBC to fight on HBO?
Edwin Rodriguez yea... in 2013?
Then what, fighters pulling out of purse bids and prolonging purse bids months past their due dates

If Peter Nelson and Haymon work together then make it, if not then guess what, it won't be made.

[Szef]

So if you value what fighter's say through the media, then what do you say about Lara calling out GGG at 154 or 160?

Or Jacobs saying he'll fight GGG at 160 for the right $$$, whether it's 3 mil or less or anything negotiable?

Or how about Froch saying he'll fight GGG at 172?

I won't even mention Ward.

Or does everything have to be on GGG's terms?

I know that you're unaware of that, but you've lost in a debate or whatever it was we were having in this thread, and now you've started deflecting the topic and nitpicking my quotes.

In other words, you're reaching.

[Chollo Vista]

The **** you even talking about?

Alright, who was the last fighter from PBC to fight on HBO?
Edwin Rodriguez yea... in 2013?
Then what, fighters pulling out of purse bids and prolonging purse bids months past their due dates

If Peter Nelson and Haymon work together then make it, if not then guess what, it won't be made.

Who pulled out of purse bids? Are you talking about Kov-Stevenson because that was all Duva.

All I'm saying is try. That's what business negotiations are for. I have yet to hear one time where Team Golovkin has ever even tried to negotiate with Jacobs or anyone else outside of their stable of options through the media.

Didn't even try. But they challenge BJS, which I guess is fine considering the unification, BJS runs scared and you guys are ok with it.

But I've also seen situations where fights couldn't get made with GGG, Pac, Kov, etc due to network issues and you guys yell duck. I'm just trying to find common ground here.

We're not going to agree on everything but we have to at least start establishing an unbiased baseline.

[Hougigo]

Who pulled out of purse bids? Are you talking about Kov-Stevenson because that was all Duva.

All I'm saying is try. That's what business negotiations are for. I have yet to hear one time where Team Golovkin has ever even tried to negotiate with Jacobs or anyone else outside of their stable of options.

Oh yea, that's cuz he's avoiding Lara and Jacobs because he's deathly afraid of them

[Chollo Vista]

Oh yea, that's cuz he's avoiding Lara and Jacobs because he's deathly afraid of them

There's double standards whether you like to acknowledge it or not.

Let their be a network issue or financial problem where someone that holds a title can't fight GGG and you guys are yelling "he duckin, doe".

But when GGG can't fight another high risk low reward fighter that doesn't have $$$, it's because of business sense.

Like I said, we don't have to agree in everything, but at least let's try to find some common ground and consistencies.

[Chollo Vista]

I know that you're unaware of that, but you've lost in a debate or whatever it was we were having in this thread, and now you've started deflecting the topic and nitpicking my quotes.

In other words, you're reaching.

Exactly how and what am I reaching on?

You mentioned guys that you thought were ducking GGG and used their statements/actions through the media as proof. I mentioned guys that asked to fight GGG and used their statements through the media as proof. I then said does it always have to be GGG's way or the highway.