Comments Thread For: Top Rank Won't Market April 9 As Pacquiao's Last Fight

[JRB123]

This MFer is up to something sneaky i can smell it. He'll try to get Pac to sign another "sub-contract" that locks him into Top Rank shud he choose to fight again. Im not sure how Pacs contract is but if this is last fight for his current contract, Bob is gonna do something sheisty.


Bobs up to something.

As far as I've read, Pac is locked in to Top Rank until January 1st, 2017...

[trainhard_187]

Bob:" Fans, we won't market this fight to be Mannys last hoorah, it would be terrible for us to market something that is a possibility of not being true so we won't do that to the fans, but Fans don't worry I will feed Manny with a 3rd fight with Bradely cause I know the boxing community demands it."


thank you Bob

[DeadLikeMe]

They've got his papers or what?

[b00g13man]

Yeah, it's not his last fight. Shame really.

[Bronx2245]

A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others:

Holmes vs. Ali – Sacrifice at Caesars Palace 30 Years On

Muhammad Ali officially retired in June 1979 at a press conference in Los Angeles; “I’m happy to be getting out! I mean it’s been hell!” He was all smiles but looked as though he meant it and the retirement party was at The Forum. Ali held court in style, performed the shuffle for his idol, Sugar Ray Robinson and thanked thousands of his fans who attended. Ali had recently co-starred in a movie called Freedom Road with Kris Kristofferson and there was also a huge amount of endorsement deals on the table, so life looked good after boxing. He was one of the most recognizable faces on the planet and retiring as a champion was the perfect ending...

Only months had passed and Ali was not settling into retirement. He appeared in ill advised television commercials that would have been more suited to a minor celebrity and the public fanfare had died off. Muhammad Ali talking up Roach Killer or Birdseye Quarter Pounders was hardly going to replace the roar of the crowd. Many people were urging him never to fight again with the most publicized detractor being Ali’s former personal physician, Dr. Ferdie Pacheco. He had left Ali’s camp after coming across test results that were recorded following a 1977 title defense with Ernie Shavers. He forwarded a copy to Ali himself, Herbert Muhammad (Ali’s Manager), Angelo Dundee (Ali’s trainer) and Veronica Porsche (Ali’s wife). Not one person responded despite Ali’s kidneys, being literally, on the verge of falling apart. Ferdie Pacheco would later explain the silence by stating; “People were in the business of keeping the golden goose alive! I was in a different business”

Rumors of an Ali return surfaced in early 1980 with the target being fellow American and new WBA Champion, John Tate. This plan fell apart when Tate was knocked cold by Mike Weaver in the final round of his first title defense. Ali was then approached by Don King who offered him eight million dollars to fight Larry Holmes. Ali was 38 years old, had been off the radar for almost two years and he was unlikely to get many more paydays of this caliber. The former champion had children, alimony payments and a celebrity wife who enjoyed mixing in high society. The money appeared to have Ali hooked; “An ill prepared man would fight Larry Holmes for eight million dollars..”

The fight happened thirty years ago but it never really goes away, nor should it. It has frequently appeared on ESPN Classic, which is an oxymoron if ever there was one, and it was also subject of a fascinating documentary released last year. Ali shouldn’t have left the game in the manner he did but tragically not much seems to have been learned from his athletic decline. Evander Holyfield, aged 47, continues to struggle in fights, as he does in interviews, and the same level of greed and ineptitude continues to this day.

Don’t hold your breath for that to ever change.

http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing...ce-30-years-on

WISE UP MANNY!!!

[nveleven]

A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others:

Holmes vs. Ali – Sacrifice at Caesars Palace 30 Years On

Muhammad Ali officially retired in June 1979 at a press conference in Los Angeles; “I’m happy to be getting out! I mean it’s been hell!” He was all smiles but looked as though he meant it and the retirement party was at The Forum. Ali held court in style, performed the shuffle for his idol, Sugar Ray Robinson and thanked thousands of his fans who attended. Ali had recently co-starred in a movie called Freedom Road with Kris Kristofferson and there was also a huge amount of endorsement deals on the table, so life looked good after boxing. He was one of the most recognizable faces on the planet and retiring as a champion was the perfect ending...

Only months had passed and Ali was not settling into retirement. He appeared in ill advised television commercials that would have been more suited to a minor celebrity and the public fanfare had died off. Muhammad Ali talking up Roach Killer or Birdseye Quarter Pounders was hardly going to replace the roar of the crowd. Many people were urging him never to fight again with the most publicized detractor being Ali’s former personal physician, Dr. Ferdie Pacheco. He had left Ali’s camp after coming across test results that were recorded following a 1977 title defense with Ernie Shavers. He forwarded a copy to Ali himself, Herbert Muhammad (Ali’s Manager), Angelo Dundee (Ali’s trainer) and Veronica Porsche (Ali’s wife). Not one person responded despite Ali’s kidneys, being literally, on the verge of falling apart. Ferdie Pacheco would later explain the silence by stating; “People were in the business of keeping the golden goose alive! I was in a different business”

Rumors of an Ali return surfaced in early 1980 with the target being fellow American and new WBA Champion, John Tate. This plan fell apart when Tate was knocked cold by Mike Weaver in the final round of his first title defense. Ali was then approached by Don King who offered him eight million dollars to fight Larry Holmes. Ali was 38 years old, had been off the radar for almost two years and he was unlikely to get many more paydays of this caliber. The former champion had children, alimony payments and a celebrity wife who enjoyed mixing in high society. The money appeared to have Ali hooked; “An ill prepared man would fight Larry Holmes for eight million dollars..”

The fight happened thirty years ago but it never really goes away, nor should it. It has frequently appeared on ESPN Classic, which is an oxymoron if ever there was one, and it was also subject of a fascinating documentary released last year. Ali shouldn’t have left the game in the manner he did but tragically not much seems to have been learned from his athletic decline. Evander Holyfield, aged 47, continues to struggle in fights, as he does in interviews, and the same level of greed and ineptitude continues to this day.

Don’t hold your breath for that to ever change.

http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing...ce-30-years-on

WISE UP MANNY!!!

Wise up, indeed.
It's said that hindsight is 20/20. Well, often foresight is as well.
Pac's been hit in the head repeatedly, KO'd concussively a few times, and sparred no telling how many rounds.
May/Pac should have been both guys' last fight. Floyd took an easy fight to fulfill his SHO contract, and manny should do the same here.
But anyone can clearly see where this is headed. Pac will blow his money, wife will take half his loot once his star fades, come crawling back to the game, and the rest is a historical re-run.
I'm 35, and it will be weird watching Roy, Pac, Shane, Morales, [and a drug-addled] Oscar at the boxing HOF & other events in wheelchairs with tremors, glassy eyes, slurred speech, etc...
We'll be telling our grandkids that they've no idea how invincible these guys once seemed. Tale as old as time...
And in Pac's case, he's dug his own grave by re-upping with Bob a few years ago.

[Bronx2245]

Wise up, indeed.
It's said that hindsight is 20/20. Well, often foresight is as well.
Pac's been hit in the head repeatedly, KO'd concussively a few times, and sparred no telling how many rounds.
May/Pac should have been both guys' last fight. Floyd took an easy fight to fulfill his SHO contract, and manny should do the same here.
But anyone can clearly see where this is headed. Pac will blow his money, wife will take half his loot once his star fades, come crawling back to the game, and the rest is a historical re-run.
I'm 35, and it will be weird watching Roy, Pac, Shane, Morales, [and a drug-addled] Oscar at the boxing HOF & other events in wheelchairs with tremors, glassy eyes, slurred speech, etc...
We'll be telling our grandkids that they've no idea how invincible these guys once seemed. Tale as old as time...
And in Pac's case, he's dug his own grave by re-upping with Bob a few years ago.

You sound like someone who would appreciate this:

November 20, 2013:

REQUIEM FOR A WELTERWEIGHT

One of the oldest sayings in boxing, the first warning every aspiring fighter hears long before they've ever entered a ring, is that the most dangerous punch, the one to fear most, is the one you never see coming. While the cliché is certainly true at the start of a career, it rarely holds up toward the end. This is because almost none of the great fighters in history ever stopped after that punch — and the history of the sport suggests that few can ever escape it. Pacquiao, despite earning a reported $174 million since 2009 from boxing and endorsements deals, is no different.

Why? Because, of course, boxing's not so well kept dirty secret is that, financially, most fighters can never stop. No matter how outlandish a fortune they've earned inside the ring and out, most greats not only never get ahead, few can even manage getting out from under. They never put much distance between themselves and where they came from. With few exceptions, they all end up desperately needing one more payday. And then another. And then another. Most are forced to hang around so long their endings are consummated by the uglier, more sinister punch that they all saw coming a mile away. Joe Louis, at 37 years old, was never blindsided by the physical punches that Rocky Marciano landed to knock him helplessly out of the ring and the sport. No, the punch he never saw coming and what set him up for Marciano's right hand was debt — in his case, to the government. Louis owed the IRS $500,000 and had nowhere else to go and get it but back into the ring.

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/201...t-2013-profile

I hope Floyd and Manny can set a new trend. And Lord, please help Roy Jones Jr.!!!

[-PBP-]

He wants Manny's scalp on Crawford's resume. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pac vs. Crawford towards the end of next year. If they both look good in their next fights the public demand may heat up but it's just not there yet.

[nveleven]

You sound like someone who would appreciate this:

November 20, 2013:

REQUIEM FOR A WELTERWEIGHT

One of the oldest sayings in boxing, the first warning every aspiring fighter hears long before they've ever entered a ring, is that the most dangerous punch, the one to fear most, is the one you never see coming. While the cliché is certainly true at the start of a career, it rarely holds up toward the end. This is because almost none of the great fighters in history ever stopped after that punch — and the history of the sport suggests that few can ever escape it. Pacquiao, despite earning a reported $174 million since 2009 from boxing and endorsements deals, is no different.

Why? Because, of course, boxing's not so well kept dirty secret is that, financially, most fighters can never stop. No matter how outlandish a fortune they've earned inside the ring and out, most greats not only never get ahead, few can even manage getting out from under. They never put much distance between themselves and where they came from. With few exceptions, they all end up desperately needing one more payday. And then another. And then another. Most are forced to hang around so long their endings are consummated by the uglier, more sinister punch that they all saw coming a mile away. Joe Louis, at 37 years old, was never blindsided by the physical punches that Rocky Marciano landed to knock him helplessly out of the ring and the sport. No, the punch he never saw coming and what set him up for Marciano's right hand was debt — in his case, to the government. Louis owed the IRS $500,000 and had nowhere else to go and get it but back into the ring.

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/201...t-2013-profile

I hope Floyd and Manny can set a new trend. And Lord, please help Roy Jones Jr.!!!

Right on! A great read and thanks for the share.
Pac could retire after this fight, and live out the rest of his days very comfortably in the Philippines (akin to Maidana). But all it takes is one of his kids developing a drug habit, jinkee divorce (guaranteed to happen btw), a few ill-advised investments (hucksters love a sucker (and the fact that a snake oil salesman like Michael Konsz is his adviser lets you know a lot about Manny's business acumen)), and a few lawsuits, and Pac will be fighting Mayorga, Margarito, Morales, & Hatton well into his 40's.

Wouldn't like to see it happen, but as the article you posted states, "the punch he never saw coming is debt"

[wlliam]

As far as I've read, Pac is locked in to Top Rank until January 1st, 2017...

Dang..on paper that is. We all know Bob owns Pacs soul