Why are Japanese fighters so reluctant to travel?

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  • Zaroku
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    #31
    Originally posted by Omowale Tribe
    And why does no one seem to call them out on it?

    Japan produces some great boxers and many prospects that follow. But they only seem to ever want to fight in Japan. Never elsewhere, why is that?
    I live in Tokyo, and speak Japanese. Most Japanese boxers can't speak English. When Ishida stopped kirkland, there was no official translator there to interview! It shows a bias. El mexicanito kameda fights in Mexico or Vegas, he has a great Mexican fan base. If Uchiyama San, Takayama San Inoue san, all spoke English like Manny, they would be house hold names! I believe it boils down to English and the comfort of fighting in front of the home crowd!

    Btw, before anyone challenges me, at least look up why Kameda fights from Mexico. Please! I may not respond to you if you are too ******!

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      #32
      Originally posted by Omowale Tribe
      And why does no one seem to call them out on it?

      Japan produces some great boxers and many prospects that follow. But they only seem to ever want to fight in Japan. Never elsewhere, why is that?
      Change the word Japan with America and ask yourself if it's still an enigma. I don't remember when was the last time that Mayweather fought outside the US... Let the other countries have some respect for themselves too. Your country is not the center of the world.
      Last edited by _Maxi; 12-30-2015, 01:37 AM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Omowale Tribe
        And why does no one seem to call them out on it?

        Japan produces some great boxers and many prospects that follow. But they only seem to ever want to fight in Japan. Never elsewhere, why is that?
        Try following boxing, dummy

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          #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Thanks fellas. This is one of the fights I am hopeful gets made. I hope it can be made even if Walters signs with Haymon as has been suggested.
          That may mean the fight never happens. Haymon has either terrible match makers or is unwilling to place his guys in with tougher opponents. Walter v Uchiyama is not a super fight, it does not require a year long build. Make it happen asap and best chances of that are away from Haymon.

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            #35
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            Change the world Japan with America and ask yourself if it's still an enigma. I don't remember when was the last time that Mayweather fought outside the US... Let the other countries have some respect for themselves too. Your country is not the center of the world.
            USA is very much the center of the world.

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              #36
              Originally posted by aldo5408
              USA is very much the center of the world.
              Not for these Japanese fighters at least

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                #37
                Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
                Another thing is the time zone difference. Its way easier for an American to go fight in Japan than a person from Japan to fight in America.

                That's why you see a lot of Japanese fighters come to America and struggle,its because they are sleepy by fight time.
                Idk why all you dudes are over looking this important point. When I flew to NYC from California, once I go there I was dead tired. I can't imagine having to fly for over 10 hours, the time zone difference is real. That is why west coast teams in football always lose in the east coast like the raiders and chargers

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out
                  You'd think there would be more initiative to at least hit boxing's Mecca in Vegas, seeing as how closely Teiken works with Top Rank. Top Rank has done fairly well at supporting the lower weight classes for years and always have a steady stable. They have given a pretty good platform for Teiken when they're willing. Although it makes all the sense in the world for them to fight at home as well.

                  Also, a lot of the Japanese fighters who try and make the cross over tend to burn and crash. Nishioka was the only one balsy enough to head to Mexico and fight Gonzalez (which almost went the other way), then Marquez in the US (whom some think got robbed), then Donaire. Shimoda getting KO'd by Ramos in the US, then crushed by Sonsona in China. Everytime Kamegai fought outside of Japan he didn't do so hot.

                  Just overall bad juju.


                  Nishioka brutally knocked Gonzalez out cold in four rounds. Apart from a flash knock down in the first, he won everything else. It wasn't close to going the other way.

                  Anyone that thought Marquez beat Nishioka can't score a fight or simply didn't watch it. Frankly, it wasn't even that close.

                  Anyway, both those fights were as clear as day so you've lost me there. An easy fourth round KO and a very clear UD.

                  Anyway, it's simple really. The market for those weight classes just isn't big here. They're stars in their own country and have big TV and sponsorship deals so why in the world would they come over apart from for the odd big fight? They have every reason to stay at home and actually have a good, well paid, worthy career.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BennyST


                    Nishioka brutally knocked Gonzalez out cold in four rounds. Apart from a flash knock down in the first, he won everything else. It wasn't close to going the other way.

                    Anyone that thought Marquez beat Nishioka can't score a fight or simply didn't watch it. Frankly, it wasn't even that close.

                    Anyway, both those fights were as clear as day so you've lost me there. An easy fourth round KO and a very clear UD.

                    Anyway, it's simple really. The market for those weight classes just isn't big here. They're stars in their own country and have big TV and sponsorship deals so why in the world would they come over apart from for the odd big fight? They have every reason to stay at home and actually have a good, well paid, worthy career.
                    You've totally missed the point.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BennyST


                      Nishioka brutally knocked Gonzalez out cold in four rounds. Apart from a flash knock down in the first, he won everything else. It wasn't close to going the other way.

                      Anyone that thought Marquez beat Nishioka can't score a fight or simply didn't watch it. Frankly, it wasn't even that close.

                      Anyway, both those fights were as clear as day so you've lost me there. An easy fourth round KO and a very clear UD.

                      Anyway, it's simple really. The market for those weight classes just isn't big here. They're stars in their own country and have big TV and sponsorship deals so why in the world would they come over apart from for the odd big fight? They have every reason to stay at home and actually have a good, well paid, worthy career.
                      He got embarrassed by donaire

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