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  • Luilun
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    #11
    Mayweather won't fight Bradley cause Bradley will be all over him without getting tired

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    • Xi_
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      #12
      Originally posted by revelated
      Incorrect. He does the one thing I feel is Floyd's weakness: Bradley goes to the body very well, better than Floyd does.

      Floyd can move his head like nobody's business, but Cotto is the only one who did any real body work and Cotto had Floyd in trouble on quite a few occasions.
      i guess you've haven't since the maidana fights or the judah fight. i have no idea what cotto has to do with this but floyd more than held his own on the inside against him. floyd probably a top 5 inside fighter among active fighters today but that gets overlooks because he's a guy that mostly fights off the backfoot. bradley got his ass torn up against an espn level fighter like provodnikov. i like bradley but let understand the levels to this.
      Last edited by Xi_; 12-27-2015, 02:37 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Xi_
        i guess you've haven't since the maidana fights or the judah fight.
        Low blows and biting don't count as body shots. I'm sorry you didn't know.


        Originally posted by Xi_
        i have no idea what cotto has to do with this but floyd more than held his own on the inside against him.
        "Held his own" <> Outclassing. Thus why many people feel (I'm not one) that Floyd lost the first Maidana fight. Cotto's body work gave Floyd problems, that's widely agreed by those who actually saw the fight. Part of the reason Canelo got so handily schooled is that he was headhunting most of the night, which is a mistake against Floyd.

        Originally posted by Xi_
        floyd probably a top 5 inside fighter among active fighters today but that gets overlooks because he's a guy that mostly fights off the backfoot.
        Let's analyze that.

        Mayweather/Castillo 1: Do I really need to go here?

        Mayweather/Ortiz: Ortiz was causing some problems for Money until he started making mistakes.

        Mayweather/Guerrero: While Mayweather was in no way going to lose against Guerrero, Guerrero's inside game was solid. Problem is he kept getting caught by counters too clean.

        Mayweather/Maidana 1: Do I really need to go here?

        Mayweather/Pacquiao, Round 4: First thing Floyd did and does, is cover up after getting tagged on the inside.

        I'm a huge Mayweather fan, but come on. This isn't 135 Floyd we're talking about here.


        Originally posted by Xi_
        bradley got his ass torn up against an espn level fighter like provodnikov. i like bradley but let understand the levels to this.
        I seriously don't think you like Bradley, given you're criticizing a fight that was 2013 Fight of the Year almost across the board with notable reporting outlets and fans. Ruslan is one dimensional certainly, but he's no bum. His chin outshines Margarito and Cotto put together.

        And Bradley went through that WAR and in the same year, proceeded to school Marquez - a guy Manny has struggled with in 4 fights despite PEDs: got a gift draw in one, a gift decision in another, and got knocked out by in the 4th.

        Bradley knocked out Brandon Rios. You know, the guy who had NEVER been stopped or knocked out? The guy that Manny couldn't even hurt? And I don't want to hear about Rios' shape. He was out of shape against Pacquiao, it's not an excuse. Bradley's a fireman, that's all.

        Bradley's had one questionable fight and that's Chaves, the dirtiest fighter in the division (ask Rios). Other than that, he's been caliber against who he's fought.

        Also I find it funny people criticize Bradley's fight against Ruslan yet praise Crawford for the Gamboa fight when he did the same damn thing and got caught just as bad; staggered at quite a few points. Double standards.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          Bradley throws lots of punches but they are somewhat wild punches that aren't that accurate and he misses lots of punches. Mayweather is very hard to hit clean. Bradley might throw lots of punches at Mayweather but he probably won't land that many and when the do land they don't have the power to hurt Mayweather. Mayweather may only throw half as any punches as Bradley but many of his will land clean. Mayweather is faster and hits harder than Bradley and he has superior speed, timing, accuracy and all around boxing skills. Mayweather also takes a punch much better. Mayweather has never been down and not often hurt. Bradley has been knocked down and badly hurt by Ruslan, Vargas and another guy who's name I forget. Bradley lost both fights to Pacquiao by a large amount on most fan's score cards. Mayweather clearly beat Pacquiao. Bradley beat Marquez in a close one while Mayweather had no problems at all beating a much younger Marquez easily. Mayweather looks much better against common opponents. Bradley is a good game tough welterweight but he comes up short as a Mayweather beater to me.

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            #15
            Originally posted by revelated
            Low blows and biting don't count as body shots. I'm sorry you didn't know.




            "Held his own" <> Outclassing. Thus why many people feel (I'm not one) that Floyd lost the first Maidana fight. Cotto's body work gave Floyd problems, that's widely agreed by those who actually saw the fight. Part of the reason Canelo got so handily schooled is that he was headhunting most of the night, which is a mistake against Floyd.



            Let's analyze that.

            Mayweather/Castillo 1: Do I really need to go here?

            Mayweather/Ortiz: Ortiz was causing some problems for Money until he started making mistakes.

            Mayweather/Guerrero: While Mayweather was in no way going to lose against Guerrero, Guerrero's inside game was solid. Problem is he kept getting caught by counters too clean.

            Mayweather/Maidana 1: Do I really need to go here?

            Mayweather/Pacquiao, Round 4: First thing Floyd did and does, is cover up after getting tagged on the inside.

            I'm a huge Mayweather fan, but come on. This isn't 135 Floyd we're talking about here.




            I seriously don't think you like Bradley, given you're criticizing a fight that was 2013 Fight of the Year almost across the board with notable reporting outlets and fans. Ruslan is one dimensional certainly, but he's no bum. His chin outshines Margarito and Cotto put together.

            And Bradley went through that WAR and in the same year, proceeded to school Marquez - a guy Manny has struggled with in 4 fights despite PEDs: got a gift draw in one, a gift decision in another, and got knocked out by in the 4th.

            Bradley knocked out Brandon Rios. You know, the guy who had NEVER been stopped or knocked out? The guy that Manny couldn't even hurt? And I don't want to hear about Rios' shape. He was out of shape against Pacquiao, it's not an excuse. Bradley's a fireman, that's all.

            Bradley's had one questionable fight and that's Chaves, the dirtiest fighter in the division (ask Rios). Other than that, he's been caliber against who he's fought.

            Also I find it funny people criticize Bradley's fight against Ruslan yet praise Crawford for the Gamboa fight when he did the same damn thing and got caught just as bad; staggered at quite a few points. Double standards.
            Floyd fought on the inside against Mosley, Cotto, and Hatton.

            Bradley beat Marquez, but Floyd won every round against a better version of Marquez.
            Last edited by VG_Addict; 12-27-2015, 03:39 PM.

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            • bluebeam
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              #16
              Bradley has the best resume of any 147 fighter so I wouldn't mind Tim getting that fight.

              I would favor floyd though

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              • SkillspayBills
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                #17
                Originally posted by Xi_
                I like Bradley.....he does nothing better than Floyd though .....absolutely nothing.
                And that's where the issues begin. Floyd does everything Bradley does better than he does it. That's the absolute worst style for someone. Someone better than you at what you do best.

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                • VG_Addict
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                  #18
                  Floyd by 8-4/9-3 type decision.

                  He's better than Bradley in every category.

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                  • HanzGruber
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                    #19
                    tim would be number 50

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #20
                      There are so many fighters Floyd could fight, there literally is always someone else to fight

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