Comments Thread For: Marquez: I Never Like To Lose, That Helped Keep Me Going

[aguayor86]

He tested clean and I have no proof he cheated and dont talk unless i have facts.. I chose to appreciate the sport instead of sh*itting on it and our fighters... So to me it was a clean win...
I love being a Boxing fan... a real one...

[The tucker]

It's obvious that Marquez cheated with steroids but manny and roach set themselves up with that infamous "let the commission do their job" line.
So they can't argue that Marquez was roided up like the hulk that fight.

[TLC8]

That's Why He Begs For Rematches, No Matter How Many, Until He Gets ONE Win

Hates to lose so much, he won't extend ONE rematch to Pacquiao who gave him 4 fights and made him a very wealthy man. Marquez knows he can't duplicate the fourth fight, and he can't pull off any kind of win over Manny. If he could, he'd take another fight for the biggest payday of his career and KO Manny again! Lol. That ain't happening.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Haters are everywhere man, I tell you... They had great fights which brought excitement, nerves, upsets, joy, parties, etc... give credit where credit is due instead of crying like a little b*tch... People like this vortex guy is the reason why the sport isn't as mainstream because your never happy with the fights we get, when we get a good one you **** on one if not both of the fighters, and always find an excuse to diss this sport. Maybe vortex should go through the exact same training, diet, exercise, and everything else this disciplined LEGEND does to give us GREAT fights... Go through the same hell he goes through to prepare for a fight and we will see how ripped you get... Clown!!!

He work with Angel PED Heredia, had increased his power in his late stage of his career, avoided VADA testing with Bradley.. Anyone that knows 2+2 = 4 knows damn well Marquez JUICED.. Great fighter and technician, NO DOUBT about that, but definitely a big RED FLAG with the later portion of his career...

As time goes on we will see some more slip ups with the 'experts' in juicing. It took a bunch of fight camps, but Floydie was finally exposed. Caught dead to rights. Yet what will ever come of that reality? Probably not much. Bottom line is, we fight fans luv a sport that, like all sports, isn't 100% legit all the time... but just like anything in life, the more money you have, the smoother your ride thru it. First and foremost example is Floydie. We may find he and JMM deciding to not risk getting caught. Maybe they'll stay retired.

And for the record, Pac won the 3rd fight.

[danktrees]

Hates to lose so much, he won't extend ONE rematch to Pacquiao who gave him 4 fights and made him a very wealthy man. Marquez knows he can't duplicate the fourth fight, and he can't pull off any kind of win over Manny. If he could, he'd take another fight for the biggest payday of his career and KO Manny again! Lol. That ain't happening.

couple things...
1 -manny agreed to the rematches because he wanted a clear win over marquez which he never had. he said this in a few interviews when asked about it.
2 - before the last fight both guys said if there was definitive conclusion then that would be the end of it. you can check all the pre-fight interviews to confirm that. for marquez i would believe him because, regardless of how much money he could make in another fight against mayweather, he didn't chase it because he knew he lost very definitively in their fight.
3 - that was as clear of a conclusion as there can possibly be.
4 - marquez probably could beat manny, especially the manny that we've seen now. but it's not going to be as crazy as that one punch ko that sent manny into next week. just because he probably won't ko manny doesnt mean he cant beat him. the two things aren't mutually tied together. that being said, manny can also win the rematch.
5 - i would like to see the 5th fight. but if manny said before the 4th fight that it would end if there's a definitive conclusion (which he did say) then i don't think marquez owes him anything. i hate when guys challenge you do to something in a do or die situation then when you succeed they start making excuses and call a mulligan to try to get you to do it again. that's a b*@($ move.

[lightsout15]

Marquez against ultra agressive fighters was awesome to watch. His counterpunching and combos were ridiculously beautiful. The way he finished off Juan Diaz, the career ending beating he handed out to Katsidis, and his fights against pacquiao will go down as a classic atg rivalry. He probably was roided in the fourth fight but that doesn't take away from his legacy. I loved the way he fought back when pac had him badly hurt against the ropes, fckin balls of steel and a massive heart. There will never be another JMM! IMO he's tied with JCC as the greatest mexican fighter ever.

[FloydvsPac]

No one in boxing even questions whether Marquez is a cheater anymore. Once he did random testing (which wasn't even VADA testing), he lost.

He's the Sammy Sosa of boxing.

[damned1974]

Hates to lose so much, he won't extend ONE rematch to Pacquiao who gave him 4 fights and made him a very wealthy man. Marquez knows he can't duplicate the fourth fight, and he can't pull off any kind of win over Manny. If he could, he'd take another fight for the biggest payday of his career and KO Manny again! Lol. That ain't happening.

Ummmmm...he gave Pac 3 other rematches. Do we need to see Pac fight an over 42 year old Marquez????

[PacmanP4PLegend]

I, for one, hate to throw around the possibility of PEDS in boxing. It's a nut-shot to the sport that has already been punted in the crotch from people testing positive in the past. Boxing one of my fav sports so it's hard from a fans-point of view to watch its reputation get put through the shredder. Did Marquez or Pac ever use PEDs in their careers, who knows, Hell they might have but if they weren't caught then what can you do? Saying Marquez juiced for the 4th fight looks real bad, just like when people say Pac juiced for the cotto fight. Okay, JMM said not wanting to lose is what kept him going Hell nobody wants to lose. My problem with Juan is he never ever once gave Pac credit for beating in their 4 fights not one time. He had a case in the 3rd fight but that was a close fight either way. Those who say robbery have clearly failed to see what a real robbery in so many other fights where the dude who should've won never got a bit of support from the boxing community just cause their fights weren't on the magnitude of a Pac-Marquez level. I like Marquez, he's a great fighter/boxer/whatever but he is a sore, sore loser. Poor sportsmanship don't earn fans and the fact that he wouldn't take TR's offer for a rematch is frankly a slap in the face considering Manny could've said "F-you" after not just the second fight but the 3rd fight too but he didn't. JMM went to the Phil and begged for the fight and they eventually agreed. Now I do think where JMM won in convincing fashion in #4 that the purse split should be equal this time between them instead of Manny getting the much bigger share all the time but that's a closed-door subject that promoters handle. Even if both sides said that #4 was the one to settle the score believe me people that's ALL fight-hype and nothing more. That's not the first time that's been thrown around in the history of the sport I'm certain and it won't be the last. I, for one, would pay for a PPV in #5 10 times quicker than what I seen between Pac-May as Pac-May was absolutely awful in every way. Pac-JMM, best rivalry in boxing history!

[Mr. Philadel]

I Never Like To lose, [avoiding VADA] helped me keep going.

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