Do PED's only effect popular fighters legacies?

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  • RetroSpeed05
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    Do PED's only effect popular fighters legacies?

    If Floyd or Pac ever got caught or were in a situation like Roy,Toney,Or EM they would always be known as drug cheats. But i see Roy,Toney and EM still get mentioned as great fighters and get ranked all-time. Similar to other sports for example when ppl mention Pats cheating, other NFL teams did much worse then they did and some blaming Pats have PED users on there team, but they don't seem to be effected as a Tom Brady. Lance Armstorng another example his whole Legacy is gone but no one mention the other cyclist that he competed against also took PEDS, it was like the MLB for them at that time, almost everyone did it.
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    Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
    If Floyd or Pac ever got caught or were in a situation like Roy,Toney,Or EM they would always be known as drug cheats. But i see Roy,Toney and EM still get mentioned as great fighters and get ranked all-time. Similar to other sports for example when ppl mention Pats cheating, other NFL teams did much worse then they did and some blaming Pats have PED users on there team, but they don't seem to be effected as a Tom Brady. Lance Armstorng another example his whole Legacy is gone but no one mention the other cyclist that he competed against also took PEDS, it was like the MLB for them at that time, almost everyone did it.
    Stop playing ****** Floyd was caught why do you think he was using that IV

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    • Golden Boi 360
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      #3
      I think this applies to the whole sport of Boxing and it might be because Boxing isn't as popular as NFL, MLB, NBA.

      It just doesn't get as much coverage because Boxing doesn't get as much coverage.

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      • Eff Pandas
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        I think boxing fans don't reallllly care about this stuff. Some small vocal minority do, but most fans don't I believe. Legends in the game have been admittedly or caught dirty already. Mosley. Jones. Toney. Those are HOF guys. Legit HOF guys, not Gatti HOF type guys. Those guys are Floyd's & Manny's peers.

        And nearly no one brings up they were dirty or that it puts a question mark on their career accomplishments. I think Margarito gets more **** about him potentially using his loaded wraps in other fights than most PED users get for potentially using PEDs in other fights.

        The only reason Floyd & Manny get more **** over their unproven speculative PED usage than their peers get for legit & proven PED usage is because both of those guys got more fanboys & haters than arguably any boxers in the history of boxing. As a guy who tries to have as objective an opinion & outlook as possible its nearly impossible to have any reasonable discussion on this forum or other boxing forums about anything that even touches on Floyd or Manny without some nut bag jumping in with biased bs.

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        • Earl-Hickey
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          #5
          Some fighters get a pass for things others don't it comes down to popularity

          Luis Ortiz gets away with being a drugs cheat fraud

          Adonis stevenson gets away with being a peadophile

          etc etc

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            #6
            Originally posted by Luilun
            Stop playing ****** Floyd was caught why do you think he was using that IV
            That's only a bedtime story to help you guys sleep at night knowing your hero failed in front of the entire world

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              #7
              Originally posted by Earl-hickey
              Some fighters get a pass for things others don't it comes down to popularity

              Luis Ortiz gets away with being a drugs cheat fraud

              Adonis stevenson gets away with being a peadophile

              etc etc
              There's no doubt by looking at recent pics that the girl in your avatar uses steroids. So add her to the "cheat fraud" list.

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              • Redd Foxx
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                Few truly care, they just use PED use as ammunition against fighters they want to bash. Same with racism, criminal activity, etc. "Fans" justify or ignore the behavior of the guys they look up to. That's why I have such a hard time calling myself a fan of anyone. I don't have the blind devotion to boxers that most here do.

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                • Rich2123
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                  You have to be really good to have a legacy. So yes. Run of the mill athletes don't have legacies, so PED use doesn't effect them.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                    That's only a bedtime story to help you guys sleep at night knowing your hero failed in front of the entire world
                    Sorry to break it to you but not even Floyd believes you. Here is Floyd talking. This is an interview right after this supposed "emergency medical condition that required an IV" incident.

                    Here is Floyd inviting to do an interview and stating unlike other fighters, he does not get drained and is extremely happy with everything...right now. So then Floyd, why did you need an IV???

                    "FLOYD MAYWEATHER RELAXING AS HE TALKS PACQUIAO AND MORE LESS THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE SHOWDOWN"

                    ""I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao."

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