Comments Thread For: Mayweather Wants To Work With Richard Schaefer Again

[bigdunny1]

None of those are big fights, you just named a whole bunch of c class fighters vs c class fighters.


And the most important fights he wasn't the lead promoter.

K2 was for golovkin vs Lemieux
Roc nation was for cotto vs canelo.

Gbp doesn't even have 2 top fighters in the same division.

And last but not least, since when does promoter of the year mean anything?

who was promoter of the year in 2005 or 2001 or 2011 or 1992?

I'm sure you don't know, because it don't matter.

if you think gbp puts on better fights now than it did when Schaefer was there you are a liar.

I'm not saying Schaefer made gbp, I'm saying gbp hasn't been the same since he left.

with Schaefer, gbp was the number 1 company
Without Schaefer, gbp is no different than K2 or main events, just a one man show. Canelo,golovkin,kovalev

How are those not big fights? Again 3 of those fights are on everyones fight of the year, one of those fights received the highest ratings on HBO in about a decade, 2 of those fights had the among the highest live gate of the year. If you think the only big fight was Canelo vs cotto you simply are an idiot. And stop with this they weren't the lead promoter crap. For example Roc nation was lead promoter in name only a product of their guy getting first name billing because he was the champion. Everyone knows golden boy basically did all the promoting and canelo was the draw not cotto.

And K2 is not up for any promoter of the year awards and hasn't put on as many big or relevant shows as golden boy and has like 1/10th the amount of fighters signed as Golden Boy. Golden Boy is a tier ahead of K2. If you want to say golden boy isn't as far and away number 1 as they were in the past that's accurate. But they are still the number 1 company and even the biggest hater has to conceed at worst they are still one of the best promoters and have not fallen off like idiots said would happen when Schaefer got booted that's the point. In fact the opposite happened and they have won promoter of the year twice without him. Schaefer was overated. Golden Boy became huge because of Oscar name. You could of had any business man running the day to day and it was still going to be successful. And going on 2 years without that snake running day to day and they are still successful. Here is the list of fighters they promote who are either currently world champ or on everyone's top 10 list for their weight class right now
Heayweight - Ortiz
Light Heavyweight - Shabransky
Middleweight - Canelo, Lemiuex
Welterweight - Ali
Jr Welterweight - Matthysse, Herrera, Orozco
Lightweight - Linares
Jr Lightweight - Vargas
Featherweight - Rios, Castellanos
Jr Featherweight - Avilla
Bantamweight - Caballero

They have somebody relevant in every weight class that matters in boxing and I just pointed out 3 divisions were not just 2 top fighters but 2 top 10 ranked fighters. So you wrong about that too. SMH And they have a influx of young top prospects who will likely make the jump to world champ and top fighters in 2016 just like vargas, ortiz, shabranskyy, Orozco made that jump in 2015. You sound dumb saying golden boy had only 1 important fight all year when HBO is re-airing their top fights of the year on new years eve, 9 fights total and golden boy is involved in 6 of them! But yeah promoter of the year, all that talent in the best divisions in boxing and the biggest cash cow in boxing who just turned 25. Golden Boy is sure in trouble without Schaefer. LMAO

[bluebeam]

How are those not big fights? Again 3 of those fights are on everyones fight of the year, one of those fights received the highest ratings on HBO in about a decade, 2 of those fights had the among the highest live gate of the year. If you think the only big fight was Canelo vs cotto you simply are an idiot. And stop with this they weren't the lead promoter crap. For example Roc nation was lead promoter in name only a product of their guy getting first name billing because he was the champion. Everyone knows golden boy basically did all the promoting and canelo was the draw not cotto.

And K2 is not up for any promoter of the year awards and hasn't put on as many big or relevant shows as golden boy and has like 1/10th the amount of fighters signed as Golden Boy. Golden Boy is a tier ahead of K2. If you want to say golden boy isn't as far and away number 1 as they were in the past that's accurate. But they are still the number 1 company and even the biggest hater has to conceed at worst they are still one of the best promoters and have not fallen off like idiots said would happen when Schaefer got booted that's the point. In fact the opposite happened and they have won promoter of the year twice without him. Schaefer was overated. Golden Boy became huge because of Oscar name. You could of had any business man running the day to day and it was still going to be successful. And going on 2 years without that snake running day to day and they are still successful. Here is the list of fighters they promote who are either currently world champ or on everyone's top 10 list for their weight class right now
Heayweight - Ortiz
Light Heavyweight - Shabransky
Middleweight - Canelo, Lemiuex
Welterweight - Ali
Jr Welterweight - Matthysse, Herrera, Orozco
Lightweight - Linares
Jr Lightweight - Vargas
Featherweight - Rios, Castellanos
Jr Featherweight - Avilla
Bantamweight - Caballero

They have somebody relevant in every weight class that matters in boxing and I just pointed out 3 divisions were not just 2 top fighters but 2 top 10 ranked fighters. So you wrong about that too. SMH And they have a influx of young top prospects who will likely make the jump to world champ and top fighters in 2016 just like vargas, ortiz, shabranskyy, Orozco made that jump in 2015. You sound dumb saying golden boy had only 1 important fight all year when HBO is re-airing their top fights of the year on new years eve, 9 fights total and golden boy is involved in 6 of them! But yeah promoter of the year, all that talent in the best divisions in boxing and the biggest cash cow in boxing who just turned 25. Golden Boy is sure in trouble without Schaefer. LMAO

Canelo was the draw, but cotto got paid 20 million dollars and everything else he wanted?

You just named all of these gbp fighters and nobody names any of those fighters when they talk about the best fighters in boxing. Only canelo.

and when boxing fans name fights they wanna see, none of the guys you just named are mentioned besides canelo

So stop. Nobody said they don't have fighters, they just don't have fighters that anybody gives a damn about outside of canelo. Lucas is fading. Ortiz is rising. Ali is rising. Lemieux is a nobody. You didn't even know who shrabransky was a week ago. Linares isn't even fighting on hbo and he is one of gbp best fighters.

And of course hbo is gonna show fights involving mostly gbp fights because they damn near the only promoter on the network, aside from top rank. I don't count Duva and K2 since hbo only is invested in 1 of their guys.

Again gbp isn't capable of putting on 1 big fight with 2 of their own fighters.

Canelo vs Lemieux isn't a big fight
Matthysse vs Herrera isn't a big fight
Rios vs Castellanos isn't a big fight.

And those are the possible matches that gbp can produce in house.

gpb have no opponents for their cash cow, but they the best promoter doe?

You already proved my point, you said it yourself. They are not far and away number 1 anymore. Anymore meaning that they once were right? Aka they were far and away the best when schaefer was there right?

Gbp were putting on 4 fight cards almost every month, majority of those fights title fights. And now gbp can barely do a doubleheader and you gon sit and here and say they weren't better during Schaefer's tenure?

Be objective for once in your life bro

[Stebs]

You already proved my point, you said it yourself. They are not far and away number 1 anymore. Anymore meaning that they once were right? Aka they were far and away the best when schaefer was there right?

Gbp were putting on 4 fight cards almost every month, majority of those fights title fights. And now gbp can barely do a doubleheader and you gon sit and here and say they weren't better during Schaefer's tenure?

Be objective for once in your life bro

He agrees with you too, he proves every ones points except his own. He is a true fan boy trying to argue something he's knows nothing about.

Oscar ----- Still Just The Face. Sorry Bigdunny1

[bigdunny1]

You said they have only 1 important fight in 2015 yet again they won promoter of the year and 6 of the top 9 fights HBO is rebroadcasting for their 2015 year in review are golden boy cards. Thats facts not opinon. So you sound dumb because you don't win awards for top promoter and HBO who is number 1 boxing doesn't have 6 of their 9 top fights if you only had 1 important fight. And you said they don't have any top fighters in the same division again another lie from you as I posted their top 10 ranked fighters and world Champs in each weight which shows multiple divisons where they have more then 1 top ranked fighter again another fact not opinion.

Last I never said they are bigger now then in the past. They just lost half their roster as part of a lawsuit this year. I said they are still number 1 promoter even after idiots like you said they would be irrelevant without Schaefer. Yet here we stand and they have the biggest cash cow who is only 25 and still peaking, numerous world champs and top ranked fightets and just won promoter of the year. The future is very bright for golden boy with those fighters i named and tons of top prospects, basically the doom and gloom idiots like you predicted almost 2 years ago didn't occur. They were hurt by fighters they lost not because Schaefer was booted. He was booted for shady dealings he had with Oscars fighters and their contracts. Schaefer was over rated and golden boy the success without him each year proves Oscar could of hired anyone to run day to day operations and still be a force.

[bigdunny1]

Canelo was the draw, but cotto got paid 20 million dollars and everything else he wanted?

You just named all of these gbp fighters and nobody names any of those fighters when they talk about the best fighters in boxing. Only canelo.

and when boxing fans name fights they wanna see, none of the guys you just named are mentioned besides canelo

So stop. Nobody said they don't have fighters, they just don't have fighters that anybody gives a damn about outside of canelo. Lucas is fading. Ortiz is rising. Ali is rising. Lemieux is a nobody. You didn't even know who shrabransky was a week ago. Linares isn't even fighting on hbo and he is one of gbp best fighters.

Are you really arguing that Cotto is a bigger draw then canelo? He got more money due to leverage in negotigations from owning the lineal middleweight title and roc nation giving him a insane contract to steal him away from top rank. Half the money he made came out of roc nations own pocket and were due to him from signing bonus when he signed to jay-z, which had nothing to do with golden boy or canelo. But he was never a bigger draw then canelo. Both guys fought on HBO in a tune up fight and canelo drew double the fans and pulled in double the HBO ratings. Even the most die hard Cotto fans admitted Canelo was the bigger fan draw before the fight. The fact Cotto got paid more because roc nation owed him all that money is on them.

If you didn't know who shabrankyy was before he beat Gonzalez then you don't follow boxing. Ortiz, shabrankyy, vargas, orozco were all top prospects last year in the same position current golden boy prospects jojo diaz, Quigley, Avila, Teixeira, etc are in right now. And where guys they lost like Wilder, charlo brothers, gary Russell were 2 years ago. See a pattern? Golden Boy knows how to develop and create top fighters and have already restocked their shelf having about double the amount of top 10 ranked fighters today then they did on March this year when they lost half their roster to haymon.

Matthysse is fading because he lost 1 fight? Nobody said he was faded when he beat Ruslan earlier this year. Lemieux is a nobody yet he is the best name on GGG resume and draws more fans to the arena then for example Keith Thurman draws. Both Matthysee and Lemieux draw a lot of fans, have exciting fight styles and are 1 win away from another title shot. And I love how you contradicted yourself with Linares early post you ignore guys fighting on HBO as a measure that they are a big named fighter then turn around and say since Linares didn't fight on HBO this year he's not a big name? So which one is it if you are fighting on HBO in front of huge audiences are you still a nobody in unimportant fights? And Linares fought in the UK for a world title and won and is now looking at a fight with Gamboa that HBO is trying to make in 2016. So what's a big fight because HBO telling you themselves that golden boy was responsible for majority of their big fights in 2015 is not enough. Fights being nominated for fight of the year by everyone outside of HBO is not enough for you. It surely is not attendance because these golden boy fighters had among the highest attendance of any fighters in their division, it's not ratings because these guys put up huge ratings and you still call them nobodies? You call guys c class fighters even though they are world champ or among the highest rated fighters in their divisons. So what mysterious gauge are you using to decide who is a somebody and what is an important fight? I'll wait because I have pointed out facts that debunk every lie and nonsense out your mouth to this point.

[bluebeam]

Are you really arguing that Cotto is a bigger draw then canelo? He got more money due to leverage in negotigations from owning the lineal middleweight title and roc nation giving him a insane contract to steal him away from top rank. Half the money he made came out of roc nations own pocket and were due to him from signing bonus when he signed to jay-z, which had nothing to do with golden boy or canelo. But he was never a bigger draw then canelo. Both guys fought on HBO in a tune up fight and canelo drew double the fans and pulled in double the HBO ratings. Even the most die hard Cotto fans admitted Canelo was the bigger fan draw before the fight. The fact Cotto got paid more because roc nation owed him all that money is on them.

If you didn't know who shabrankyy was before he beat Gonzalez then you don't follow boxing. Ortiz, shabrankyy, vargas, orozco were all top prospects last year in the same position current golden boy prospects jojo diaz, Quigley, Avila, Teixeira, etc are in right now. And where guys they lost like Wilder, charlo brothers, gary Russell were 2 years ago. See a pattern? Golden Boy knows how to develop and create top fighters and have already restocked their shelf having about double the amount of top 10 ranked fighters today then they did on March this year when they lost half their roster to haymon.

Matthysse is fading because he lost 1 fight? Nobody said he was faded when he beat Ruslan earlier this year. Lemieux is a nobody yet he is the best name on GGG resume and draws more fans to the arena then for example Keith Thurman draws. Both Matthysee and Lemieux draw a lot of fans, have exciting fight styles and are 1 win away from another title shot. And I love how you contradicted yourself with Linares early post you ignore guys fighting on HBO as a measure that they are a big named fighter then turn around and say since Linares didn't fight on HBO this year he's not a big name? So which one is it if you are fighting on HBO in front of huge audiences are you still a nobody in unimportant fights? And Linares fought in the UK for a world title and won and is now looking at a fight with Gamboa that HBO is trying to make in 2016. So what's a big fight because HBO telling you themselves that golden boy was responsible for majority of their big fights in 2015 is not enough. Fights being nominated for fight of the year by everyone outside of HBO is not enough for you. It surely is not attendance because these golden boy fighters had among the highest attendance of any fighters in their division, it's not ratings because these guys put up huge ratings and you still call them nobodies? You call guys c class fighters even though they are world champ or among the highest rated fighters in their divisons. So what mysterious gauge are you using to decide who is a somebody and what is an important fight? I'll wait because I have pointed out facts that debunk every lie and nonsense out your mouth to this point.

So now Lemieux is the best win on golovkin resume? Golovkin beat Rubio. The same Rubio that beat Lemiuex. So wouldn't beating Rubio be a better win than beating Lemieux? You probably didn't even know that Rubio beat Lemiuex though.

and I say lucas is fading, because he has talked about retirement after the postol fight. He just quit. And his reputation has taken a hit. Is that not the definition of fading?

and lucas is one of my favorite fighters, but I call it objectively

Name the big fights that gbp can make in house? I'll wait for your answer.

Who does gbp have for canelo to fight? I'll wait.

Who does gbp have for Matthysse to fight? I'll wait.

Who does gbp have for ali to fight? I'll wait.

gbp can't make any meaningful fight at this point without another promoter giving them an opponent. But they are a good promoter?

Gbp during Schaefer years put on way better cards than they do now. That's just a fact.

Hbo had a ****ty year of boxing. All boxing fans agree to that. Stop acting like those fights moved the needle in boxing this year because they didn't .


hell boxing had a ****ty year all together, I'm not even tryna single out hbo.

Canleo vs cotto
Mayweather vs pacquiao
kovalev vs pascal
Mares vs Santa Cruz
Klitschko vs fury
Broner vs porter

My definition of big fights in 2015.

[al-Xander]

TBE's paying lip service again, but he's too stingy to hire Schaefer.

Remember when the flo-mo community predicted the fall of HBO and the rise of SHO? What the hell happened? Took Pac to save them from their financial misery. Even then they seem to have not recovered yet from the devastation the trio, Schaefer, Espinoza, Haymon plus TBE brought upon them.

[bigdunny1]

So now Lemieux is the best win on golovkin resume? Golovkin beat Rubio. The same Rubio that beat Lemiuex. So wouldn't beating Rubio be a better win than beating Lemieux? You probably didn't even know that Rubio beat Lemiuex though.

and I say lucas is fading, because he has talked about retirement after the postol fight. He just quit. And his reputation has taken a hit. Is that not the definition of fading?

and lucas is one of my favorite fighters, but I call it objectively

Name the big fights that gbp can make in house? I'll wait for your answer.

Who does gbp have for canelo to fight? I'll wait.

Who does gbp have for Matthysse to fight? I'll wait.

Who does gbp have for ali to fight? I'll wait.

gbp can't make any meaningful fight at this point without another promoter giving them an opponent. But they are a good promoter?

Gbp during Schaefer years put on way better cards than they do now. That's just a fact.

Hbo had a ****ty year of boxing. All boxing fans agree to that. Stop acting like those fights moved the needle in boxing this year because they didn't .


hell boxing had a ****ty year all together, I'm not even tryna single out hbo.

Canleo vs cotto
Mayweather vs pacquiao
kovalev vs pascal
Mares vs Santa Cruz
Klitschko vs fury
Broner vs porter

My definition of big fights in 2015.

Rubio was not world champ like lemueix and was not in his prime like lemeuix. And it wasn't on ppv and it didn't sellout msg. So no it wasn't as big a win. And what does in house fight have to do with important fights? You said golden boy had only 1 important fight which is lie. And canelo is big enough where he could fight your momma and it will be a big fight that sells out baseball parks and does huge ratings on HBO or generates tons of money in ppv. Matthysee got big fights all year why would that change next year? He could fight Ruslan again, he could fight crawford and anyone else not signed to haymon since as we seen this year golden boy works with everyone they don't have to make only in house fights. If Matthysse beat Postol he was first in line to fight Pacquiao next. And you yet to define what makes a fighter a nobody and multiple fights from golden boy that you refuse to acknowledge as big fights drew more TV audiences and drew more fans to the arena then the fights you mentioned and also had higher ranked fighters. Kovalev pascal is a big fight but not Matthysse vs Ruslan? which drew higher ratings and was the fight of the year until the vargas muira fight knocked it off. Or matthysse Postol. Or GGG vs Lemiuex? Get the f outta here. If kovalev fight is big then so are those 3 fights. So according to you there was only 6 important fights all year? SMH

And for the 100 time who said golden boy is bigger now? They lost a mass amount of fighters that would be impossible. I said they are still the top promoter in boxing at worst among the elite. They are sweeping the awards for top promoter of 2015, they put on the biggest and best fights of 2015 and have numerous world Champs and top ranked fighters and the biggest fighter in the game. Those are facts not opinon. You can't say they are not a top promoter in early posts then get proved wrong and change the argument to well they aren't as big as they were. lol My point is idiots like you said they would be irrelevant without Schaefer and the opposite has happened they won 2 promoter of the year award a without Schaefer. Losing fighters to haymon hurt them not losing Schaefer. As I said he was overated golden boy could of hired any business man to run the day to day operations and they would be successful and that's what you seeing. Schaefer was a snake who conspired to let contracts expire and not renew them golden rid themselves of that cancer and in one year have restocked their shelf building new world Champs and top fighters to go along with canelo. 2016 I expect nothing but the same. The future is bright for them all their fighters signed up and no snake like Schaefer to steer them to haymon. The doom and gloom idiots like you predicted never came.

[al-Xander]

When exactly is this going to happen? Seems fighthype stopped running articles about this. What the hell happened?

[Eff Pandas]

Looks like this is going to be happening soon.

Former Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer plans to return to the sport by the summer, likely as a promoter, he told ******.com on Wednesday afternoon. And while he was coy about the details of his return, Schaefer said he is eager to work with Floyd Mayweather Jr. again.

“I want to fulfill my vision for the sport,” Schaefer said in a phone interview. “And I was thinking, at one point, to maybe get involved in the management side of the sport. But I’m still most excited about the promotional side, and so it just excites me more, and I think there’s a void and a need.”

http://******.craveonline.com/news/4...ng-this-summer