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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    Originally posted by !WAR ROSADO!
    they said a whole bunch of nothing.
    Originally posted by NEETzsche
    that pretty much describes every peter nelson interview since he took the reins. not sure that the revolution some people were hoping for is happening
    The first things I thought. Pre-head of HBO boxing Peter Nelson was like Sam Kinison in his prime vs this very carefully spoken Joel Osteen post-head of HBO boxing Peter Nelson. Don't know if this is the Nelson we will get used to seeing or if this is just a new to the gig, be careful about throwing your feet on the coffee table too soon type thing or what.

    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    I think Haymon is having Stevenson hold that WBC title for Marcus Browne.
    I think people got some old ideas with this new concept. Haymon's PBC plan doesn't work with big egos & designs on making this guy or that guy the champion. Sure there are guys more or less marketable than others & its smart to be mindful of that, but the main goal of PBC isn't to get Thurman or Browne or any other cat in the #1 spot its to bring all the best fighters over a period of several years under the PBC umbrella. This isn't Top Rank or Golden Boy Promotions or Don King Productions where they are just trying to get "their guy" into the coveted best position. The PBC is bigger than that. If it works or not is a whole other thing, but what I said I believe to be what PBC's end goal is more or less.

    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
    Been telling folks the Stevenson vs Kovalev fight will never happen.
    I think it'll happen much more than I thought it'd happen pre-Nelson taking over the HBO gig. Previous to his more diplomatic responses lately he's been a proponent of just making the best fights. That mindset gets Kovalev vs Stevenson happening. Is that Peter Nelson still around? Do they still got some reins on him? Idk, but I know he was made the VP instead of the President which was an unusual move to imo.

    Regardless to all that, the one thing I know for almost certain (maybe 80% sure) is that Stevenson vs Kovalev won't be happening next year. I think HBO will clearly value making a fight with 2 HBO names (Kovalev vs Ward) in the 2nd half of the year) over making Kovalev vs Stevenson in June. I personally favor Kovalev to beat Stevenson as most others seem to, but the reality is I nor most fans don't have anything on the line as big as HBO does. If Kovolev gets put to sleep by Stevenson the allure of two undefeated HBO fighters get diminished greatly. No reason in the world to risk that. Kovalev is more likely to happen than its been since they both were with HBO, but it won't happen til after Kovalev vs Ward & that likely means it doesn't happen til 2017.
    Last edited by Eff Pandas; 12-22-2015, 01:25 PM.

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    • hitking
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      #12
      Originally posted by Real Talk85
      I'm pretty sure outside of Hopkins and Pascal kovalev has only fought sxrubs, that have done nothing since. Fonfara, Stevenson, Bieterbiev, are clearly the top guys at the weight. Pascal just got handed a gift decision his last fight. The only reason he's fighting krusher again is because kovalwv can't draw worth craps and they need pascals name recognition in Canada.
      Outside of Hopkins and Pascal, who else available does Kovalev need to fight to establish light heavyweight supremacy in your eyes?

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        #13
        Originally posted by NEETzsche
        at this point i just want to see him KTFO for closure. preferably by kovalev, but beterbiev or browne would be fine too
        I'm not nearly as confident as Kovalev's fans that he would knock Stevenson TFO. Kovalev would definitely be favored. But Stevenson hits like a damn mule and Kovalev gets hit. And Stevenson knows how ro land. He'd be a very live dawg.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #14
          Originally posted by !WAR ROSADO!
          they said a whole bunch of nothing.
          LOL, pretty much.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Real Talk85
            I'm pretty sure outside of Hopkins and Pascal kovalev has only fought sxrubs, that have done nothing since. Fonfara, Stevenson, Bieterbiev, are clearly the top guys at the weight. Pascal just got handed a gift decision his last fight. The only reason he's fighting krusher again is because kovalwv can't draw worth craps and they need pascals name recognition in Canada.
            how is beterbiev a top guy? who has he beaten besides the corpses of campillo and cloud? shabaransky already has a better resume over beterbiev with his win over gonzalez. just because a fighter has hype doesn't make him a top fighter automatically. he still has to earn it, and just because you don't see guys like shabaransky doesn't mean he doesn't exist

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            • daggum
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              #16
              Originally posted by hitking
              Outside of Hopkins and Pascal, who else available does Kovalev need to fight to establish light heavyweight supremacy in your eyes?
              beterbum! oh wait beterbum turned down the fight so he could fight in an elminator for one of kovalev's belts....makes perfect sense!

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              • robbyheartbaby
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                #17
                Originally posted by Real Talk85
                I'm pretty sure outside of Hopkins and Pascal kovalev has only fought sxrubs, that have done nothing since. Fonfara, Stevenson, Bieterbiev, are clearly the top guys at the weight. Pascal just got handed a gift decision his last fight. The only reason he's fighting krusher again is because kovalwv can't draw worth craps and they need pascals name recognition in Canada.
                That is some serious crap you are talking there, Kovalev is coming off wins against the likes of Hopkins, Pascal & Cleverly, the man that went to war with Fonfara got owned by Kovalev. Beterbiev declined a fight with Kovalev and what the F*** has Stevenson done?! F*** have some respect!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  beterbum! oh wait beterbum turned down the fight so he could fight in an elminator for one of kovalev's belts....makes perfect sense!
                  Beterbum, harsh but damn I can't stop laughing!

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                    #19
                    What he really Said

                    What he really said is we as HBO won't stand in the way, but it's doubtful Haymon is game.

                    And we would live to see Ward fight Kovalev, but the guy doesn't seem to want to fight anyone alive again. We know Wards focus has been convincing his fans he really wanted GGG doe.

                    In other words, Ward isn't a serious threat to anyone but himself.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                      We know Wards focus has been convincing his fans he really wanted GGG doe.
                      Ward exposed lil g-string as a coward.

                      Froch confirmed it he's a coward.

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