Do Amir Khan and Lennox Lewis have bad chins?

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  • KO'er
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    Do Amir Khan and Lennox Lewis have bad chins?

    I was watching the Joshua-Whyte fight and AJ took a couple of shots from Whyte and was OK. However in the 2nd round Whyte hit AJ with a very big punch and AJ got wobbled a bit.

    I was thinking of the careers of Amir Khan and Lennox Lewis. Khan got KO'd by Breidis Prescott and Danny Garica, however he was able to take solid punches from Maidana and other punchers and stay standing. Lewis was KO'd by a single big right hand from Rahman and was counted out. He got stopped by Oliver McCall who wasn't a big puncher. Lewis got up but was on very unsteady legs and was stopped by the ref.

    Do those knockout losses mean Khan and Lewis have bad chins? Or average chins?
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    Please don't put these in the same category.

    Lewis had a very decent chin. The only shots that put him down were flush ones from very big punchers (McCall was a big puncher). He could be rocked, but considering the fact he was fighting in the heavyweight division in one of the most puncher rich eras in the sport's history, it's would be a miracle if he wasn't.

    Khan gets rocked and discombobulated by any shot that he gets hit with, including jabs. Yes, he has a bad chin.

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    • Nubia
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      Khan has a horrible China chin.

      Lewis, not as bad.

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      • mann187
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        #4
        Lewis didnt have a bad chin at all

        Khan has shaky chin for sure, when he gets hit at the top of his head he cant seem to control himself.

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          Originally posted by KO'er
          I was watching the Joshua-Whyte fight and AJ took a couple of shots from Whyte and was OK. However in the 2nd round Whyte hit AJ with a very big punch and AJ got wobbled a bit.

          I was thinking of the careers of Amir Khan and Lennox Lewis. Khan got KO'd by Breidis Prescott and Danny Garica, however he was able to take solid punches from Maidana and other punchers and stay standing. Lewis was KO'd by a single big right hand from Rahman and was counted out. He got stopped by Oliver McCall who wasn't a big puncher. Lewis got up but was on very unsteady legs and was stopped by the ref.

          Do those knockout losses mean Khan and Lewis have bad chins? Or average chins?
          Amir Khan - yes, he has a bad chin but worse is his recovery, when he gets hurt he takes an age to recover. Against Maidana he was fortunate, he showed mental toughness to get through that and he hung on, credit was due, but yes he has a bad chin

          Lennox - he had a good chin, he was caught with ridiculous shots twice in his career but took big punches off briggs, tua, bruno etc, he took solid shots off many big punchers

          Joshua - too early to tell what his chin is like at this stage, tyson fury got dropped by cunningham and went on to beat klitschko so i dont read much into joshua getting buzzed off whyte

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            #6
            Originally posted by KO'er
            I was watching the Joshua-Whyte fight and AJ took a couple of shots from Whyte and was OK. However in the 2nd round Whyte hit AJ with a very big punch and AJ got wobbled a bit.

            I was thinking of the careers of Amir Khan and Lennox Lewis. Khan got KO'd by Breidis Prescott and Danny Garica, however he was able to take solid punches from Maidana and other punchers and stay standing. Lewis was KO'd by a single big right hand from Rahman and was counted out. He got stopped by Oliver McCall who wasn't a big puncher. Lewis got up but was on very unsteady legs and was stopped by the ref.

            Do those knockout losses mean Khan and Lewis have bad chins? Or average chins?
            Both Lewis and Khan had/have lapses in defence, which is what led to their KOs. When they are switched on and see the punches coming, they can take big shots. That doesn't mean they have good chins but the real issue is that neither guy has good powers of recuperation. We saw that throughout Lewis's career where he always hung on for dear life after getting tagged.

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              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Both Lewis and Khan had/have lapses in defence, which is what led to their KOs. When they are switched on and see the punches coming, they can take big shots. That doesn't mean they have good chins but the real issue is that neither guy has good powers of recuperation. We saw that throughout Lewis's career where he always hung on for dear life after getting tagged.
              Eh, don't agree with that at all regarding Lewis. He had very good recuperative powers, otherwise he would never have survived Bruno, Briggs, Vitali or even Zeljko Mavrovic, all fights in which he was clearly hurt and forced to recoup.

              Khan just has atrocious recuperative powers. I'm astounded he survived Maidana.

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              • Elroy1
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                Well for a start we can dismiss the Lennox Lewis bad chin myth as pure nutbaggery.

                Just like Wladimir, it is impossible to be a dominant champ in the era of the superheavyweight WITHOUT decently strong chin.

                LEaving Amir Khan..

                I don't think Khan's chin is very strong but it is also a far cry from "glass" too.

                I mean he seemed to RECOVER from Garcia the more he got KD'd for example, and only 2 stoppage losses in 30+ fights is no indication he is packing china really.

                One of the hardest chins in boxing of all time, Ross Puritty, was beaten by KO in one of his first boxing matches. And this is possibly the toughest man to ever box!

                There is always a certain aura about a man who has never been KOed before. But it's OBVIOUS that every man is KOable really. I mean Mariusz Wach was stopped by Povetkin eventually. Chuvalo was stopped by Foreman. These fights were stopped to SAVE these guys from the inevitable KO.

                Basically you should not deduce something from only a couple of losses on an average boxers record, even if they ended in a KO. A NEAR perfect record should be regarded more or less similarly to a perfect one because there is equal chance that the indomitable chin is just one that hasn't been cracked yet.

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                • Elroy1
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fury4daWIN
                  Eh, don't agree with that at all regarding Lewis. He had very good recuperative powers, otherwise he would never have survived Bruno, Briggs, Vitali or even Zeljko Mavrovic, all fights in which he was clearly hurt and forced to recoup.

                  Khan just has atrocious recuperative powers. I'm astounded he survived Maidana.
                  You need to rewatch the Garcia fight.

                  Regarding LEwis you are right of course.

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                    Originally posted by Fury4daWIN
                    Eh, don't agree with that at all regarding Lewis. He had very good recuperative powers, otherwise he would never have survived Bruno, Briggs, Vitali or even Zeljko Mavrovic, all fights in which he was clearly hurt and forced to recoup.

                    Khan just has atrocious recuperative powers. I'm astounded he survived Maidana.
                    He barely survived Vitali, lucky the fight only went 6, he was gassing badly and hugging for dear life.

                    Bruno had him in trouble a couple times but it's not how good Lewis' recuperative powers were but rather how good his power was that he stopped Bruno.

                    That's how I see it anyway.

                    Khan took some solid shots throughout his career and has gotten up every time he has been down barring Prescott.

                    A bad or terrible chin is Seth Mitchell and guys like that.

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