Comments Thread For: Julian Williams Continues Hunt For Opponent, Vanes Out

[kiaba360]

This **** is sad. How in the blue hell is J-Rock supposed to prove himself if he can't get the top guys in the ring? Seems like he's stuck between prospect/contender. What about Willie Nelson? Dude is building up a rep for fighting anyone, and it would be an entertaining fight to watch.

[tredh]

He cant force them obviously he's not gonna put a gun to their head and drag em to the danm ring. But to have the sorryass excuse "they don't want to fight each other and he cant make them" is absolutely laughable. It's boxing. They HAVE to fight each other. There has to be a #1 guy in the division. None of that lets not fight each other instead fight some other no name mismatch

You can call it laughable all you want that doesn't stop it from being a fact. Obviously they don't have to fight each other cause so far they haven't and it doesn't like they all will at the moment.

I don't understand why you replied to my first post like you did when all you did was agree with post anyway. Which is Haymon can't force those dudes to fight each other. As wrong and bad as it is for us fans its just something we have to deal with. We don't have to buy or watch any fight we feel is a mismatch and ratings dips and horrible ppv buy rates let them know how we feel.

[tredh]

I comprehend it. My point is that your his manager yet you have no say in your clients career. That makes absolutely no sense. Then why are you his manager? What do you bring to the table?

J-Roc has been in the game far to long to have gotten no serious competition. Lara, Trout, The Charlos, the list goes on about the amount of top junior middleweights that he can fight but yet nothing is coming his way.

No you didn't comprehend it. What he was saying is as his manager he can only get what his client J-Rock asks for monetary wise everything else is not up to or on him. So he has plenty of say in J-Rock's career and only his career not on any of the opponents.

Trout turned down the fight how is that his manager fault? If Lara and the Charlos (at least we know for sure 1 Charlo bro doesn't want to fight J-Rock) again how is that his manager fault? Vanes asking for the same money Trout was offered when that same amount is not on the table for Vanes is not his manager fault. You acting like their aren't 2 sides to all of this.

GGG hasn't fought the best either and been fighting for longer than J-Rock. Do you think his manager is doing a bad job as well?

[Eastcoast]

When did I say was ok with the bold?

So please explain how Haymon can force fighters to take fights they don't want to take.

It has to do with how Haymon overpays his guys for easy fights. Trout and Charlo know they can make great money fighting push-overs and therefore pass over Julian.

Lara makes mad money fighting retired welter-weights, and therefore passes over guys like Clottey.

Thurman makes mad money fighting Guerrero and Collazo, and now is dragging his feet on Shawn Porter.

Stevenson makes mad money fighting unnecessary garbage fights like Karpency, Bika, and Sukhotsky and was stripped of his RING title because he hasn't face a RING top 10 in 18 months.

[tredh]

It has to do with how Haymon overpays his guys for easy fights. Trout and Charlo know they can make great money fighting push-overs and therefore pass over Julian.

Lara makes mad money fighting retired welter-weights, and therefore passes over guys like Clottey.

Thurman makes mad money fighting Guerrero and Collazo, and now is dragging his feet on Shawn Porter.

Stevenson makes mad money fighting unnecessary garbage fights like Karpency, Bika, and Sukhotsky and was stripped of his RING title because he hasn't face a RING top 10 in 18 months.

None of my posts has ever gone against what you are saying. I'm not even talking about that. Regardless of the reason why they do it.

My point still remains true which is Haymon can't FORCE these guys to fight better competition. Which what some were alluding to. We all want to see these guys fight better competition but they have to want to face better competition in order for that to happen. So far that ain't happening and IMO its more by the choice of the fighters and their teams than it is Haymon.

For the record I feel Haymon deserves plenty of blame in this as well.

[icha]

Why overpay a bunch of *****s if they wont take the fights you want, with all that money haymon is supossed to have some control.. if he doesnt then why waste time and money with those *****s?

[Hougigo]

Might fight the Italian guy Matano... supposedly he's open to the fight and he's next on the list....