"GGG Ducked Ward"

[boliodogs]

168lb Froch = OK

168lb Chavez jr = OK

164lb Ward = DUCK

Ward says Mayweather, I'll go to 160 to fight you. Ward says I won't fight GGG at 164 but only at 168. Big duck by big phony hypocrite Ward.

[jqSide]

They keep omitting the fact that Ward challenged Floyd at 160. If you're unwilling to acknowledge that, then your credibility is garbage. You should stop posting.

[boliodogs]

168lb Froch = OK

168lb Chavez jr = OK

164lb Ward = DUCK

This is a dead issue. GGG could have moved up but didn't. Ward decided to take like 3 years off and now is fighting at 175. Let it go already.

GGG didn't move up to 175 for the obvious reason that he is a 33 year old smallish middleweight who makes 160 with ease and his growing days are over. He can beat any middleweight in the world and middleweight is the prestigious division, not 168 or 175. If he moves to 175 he is giving up 15 or more pounds to naturally bigger men and handicapping himself. As great as he is GGG would still lose to Kovalev at 175. GGG moving up in weight would have been a ****** and pointless thing to do.

[Publius]

You could possibly argue that he is a hypocrite for wanting a CW in one case while agreeing to 168 in the other case, but that is not the same as ducking. Wanting to make a fight split down the middle is not ducking. And it's all beside the point, because there was never any offer. Yet people keep repeating the lie. Why?

Essentially you are saying that if GGG negotiates at all in his own interest then he is ducking, which is insane.

[boliodogs]

Definitely avoid the fight, you can twist it whichever way you want, he avoided that fight. They (HBO) even had to pay off ward so he can move to 175 to remove some of the unwanted heat generated by GGG.

Ward never made a legit written offer to fight GGG so how could GGG possibly avoid a fight That was never on the table??? You can't tell anyone what Ward's so called offer to fight GGG said in terms of how much the fighters were to be paid, when and where they were supposed to fight and on what network. You can't tell anyone because there never was a written offer and therefore Ward's so called challenge was just meaningless talk. At the time Ward made this verbal challenge GGG was under contract to fight Lemieux soon and he had to go through with that fight or face a lawsuit. GGG never ducked any reasonable legit offer to fight a worthy opponent in his entire career but Martinez, Cotto, Quillen and many others avoided GGG like the plaque.

[Larry the boss]

It's not considered a duck if it's your favorite fighter.

We can close the thread right here

[Larry the boss]

Ward says Mayweather, I'll go to 160 to fight you. Ward says I won't fight GGG at 164 but only at 168. Big duck by big phony hypocrite Ward.

GGG said he'd go to 154 for Mayweather but not 155 for Canelo..man we can do this all day...he'll go to 168 for Froch and Chavez Jr but not Ward...thats 2 ducks man

[Rudiamonds]

You could possibly argue that he is a hypocrite for wanting a CW in one case while agreeing to 168 in the other case, but that is not the same as ducking. Wanting to make a fight split down the middle is not ducking. And it's all beside the point, because there was never any offer. Yet people keep repeating the lie. Why?

Essentially you are saying that if GGG negotiates at all in his own interest then he is ducking, which is insane.

Because he had no problem fighting frosh or chavez at 168..why didnt he put a demand on them for the fight? Why is ward the guy who already school CF has to come to 164 for the guy who claimes that no one want to fight? And there was an offer and they turned the fight down because ward will not and should not go under 168

[Cutthroat]

Sig says it all really, this isn't debatable.

[Ray*]

Criticism? Yea ok. But saying he ducked ward? No. You could just as easily say ward ducked him by not taking the fight at 164.

Whichever fact works for you is fine by me.