Comments Thread For: Barthelemy Decisions Shafikov, Wins IBF World Title

[IMDAZED]

I think guys like Rigo, Lara and Abril have made many fans believe all Cuban fighters box like them. Nothing could be further from the truth. Casamayor was a slick badass. Gamboa was electrifying at his peak (if it's indeed behind him). Hernandez and Perez were warriors. Barthélemy, although capable of being a technician, prefers to do battle. And let's not even get into the Cuban ATGs like Napoles and Gavilán. It's human nature: the many are often judged by the actions of the few.

Agreed. But even if that were the case, how is that "minimalist?"

So using your head, footwork, defense, counterpunching, jabbing is minimalist? Seems to me that just standing there and going toe to toe with no defence is minimalist since it doesn't require much thought. People on here just say any dumb **** to cover their bias.

[IMDAZED]

Do you know what Contradanza or Habanera is? That which later produced danzon, mambo and 'cha cha cha'?... and what "Afro-Cuban jazz" is, as well? Did you ever listen to Buena Vista Social Club music, for instance?

... After you get an idea about what I am speaking about, came and discuss "Cuban minimalism" with me...

Lol you make me laugh.

[MDPopescu]

Do you know what Contradanza or Habanera is? That which later produced danzon, mambo and 'cha cha cha'?... and what "Afro-Cuban jazz" is, as well? Did you ever listen to Buena Vista Social Club music, for instance?

... After you get an idea about what I am speaking about, came and discuss "Cuban minimalism" with me...

Lol you make me laugh.

Of course I make you laugh, because you simply don't know what "cultural anthropology" is... But never mind.

[IMDAZED]

Of course I make you laugh, because you simply don't know what "cultural anthropology" is... But never mind.

You make me laugh because you think the cha cha has something to do with being a fighting "minimalist."

Funny guy.

[b00g13man]

You make me laugh because you think the cha cha has something to do with being a fighting "minimalist."

Funny guy.

[PAC-BOY]

Lol Pretty good fight.

I thought it would be. Both guys are game ass dudes. Im glad Barthelemy won though.

[tiliheels]

I thought it would be. Both guys are game ass dudes. Im glad Barthelemy won though.

i remember u sucking off shaf a few months before the fight talkin about him and abel sanchez will make rances quit...suck off somewhere bro

[otrocubiche]

lots of butts hurting because a cuban boxer came to fight......

I'm not sold on rances yet, specially since he's been around good boxers since he was born, but he looked a lot better than on previous fights

it seems that for some ******s for cuban boxers is damned if you do, damned if you don't, if they outbox someone from the outside, they are this or that, if they fight toe to toe, they are this other or that other thing, well keep on hating, you do realize that hating only hurts the one that hates, the hated probably has never or never will hear from you.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Agreed. But even if that were the case, how is that "minimalist?"

So using your head, footwork, defense, counterpunching, jabbing is minimalist? Seems to me that just standing there and going toe to toe with no defence is minimalist since it doesn't require much thought. People on here just say any dumb **** to cover their bias.

I think all he meant by minimalist was that guys like Rigo and Lara punch sparingly. Usually TOO sparingly, if you ask me. No biggie, man.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I thought it would be. Both guys are game ass dudes. Im glad Barthelemy won though.

They really are. Both men came to fight. Shafikov is a solid fighter, but what makes him dangerous is his relentlessness. If Barthelemy's conditioning had been any less, he might've folded under the pressure. Compubox reports that Rances landed 260 total punches to Denis's 228 (488 total). Barthélemy scored 43% of his power shots.