stop the madnesss, GGG doesnt have 15 title defenses and isnt close to any record

[soul_survivor]

It's ok, it doesn't matter anyway. He's still the best 160 punder out there, since at least three years ago.

Correction, since last year, as Cotto refused to fight him and it was obvious Martinez was in no fit condition to carry on.

[therealpugilist]

You can't blame Golovkin for Sturm ducking him for years. Sure, he didn't win it in the ring. That's been true for a LOT of people. People move up to divisions, people retire. Lineage gets broken all the time.
Fact is NONE of the current lineal champs are truly lineal. Every single lineage has been broken at least once, usually 10+ times.
He's 33

And lineal doesn't mean **** either anymore. Adonis Stevenson is the lineal LHW champ for beating the ghost of Chad Dawson. It's a joke. There's absolutely NO way to truly say "this guy is the true champ because he has xyz" Use your brain.

You need to get your facts straight - look up rankings of his opponents before the fights. The vast majority of them were ranked in top10 by the ring magazine. That's a FACT.
It doesn't matter that YOU think they're 'bums'. Fact is they were highly ranked.


Just to confirm, you think the true MW champ is the guy who has never fought at the MW limit and has never faced anyone weighing ~160?

You think the true MW champ is the guy who won the title from his opponent, who weighed in at 153? You think that the winner of Floyd/Pac should hold the 154 title? It's a joke man.


I know you're trying to say lineage is only thing is matters, but it's just not true. Neither does WBA belt, or WBC belt or IBF belt. "Use your brain" is the only way to tell who's the true champ right now.

the champion is the guy who beat the champion....Canelo, who beat Cotto, who beat Martinez, who beat Pavlik, who beat Taylor, who beat Hopkins'



its not that complicated... you're such a fan boy you want to ignore the truth and middleweight is one of the few weight classes that has a universal champion....deal with it


you don't get credit for fights not happening. Regardless of who ducked who or why the fights didn't happen, they still didn't happen and you get no credit for that

[j0zef]

the champion is the guy who beat the champion....Canelo, who beat Cotto, who beat Martinez, who beat Pavlik, who beat Taylor, who beat Hopkins'



its not that complicated... you're such a fan boy you want to ignore the truth and middleweight is one of the few weight classes that has a universal champion....deal with it


you don't get credit for fights not happening. Regardless of who ducked who or why the fights didn't happen, they still didn't happen and you get no credit for that

Only in your world is Cotto being MW champ is the truth. Both Cotto and Canelo are on PUBLIC record saying they're not MWs. Only in your simplistic world can they still be true MW champions.

Lineal doesn't mean ****. You want to hang onto that outdated principle? You want to hang onto Floyd being best at 154, Adonis being best at 175?
Go for it. I prefer to use my brain.

Btw - what happens after the highlighted section? Who did Hopkins beat, since you're such a big fan of man-who-beat-the-man?

[Chrismart]

Lineal has so many flaws it's hardly worth bring up.
The last 2 MW lineal champs have never faced an opponent who was allowed to weigh in at 160.

[SilverMiles]

he is no where near any record


PEOPLE don't even know when to start counting his WBA defenses. The problem is he was elevated and never won it in the ring


Also dude is pushing 34-35 and finally beat a titleholder for the IBF....he isn't lineal champion so his defenses mean nothing until he is lineal whats the point of counting him knocking out no hopers and unranked guys


He stands at 0 defenses of the ibf/wba unified.


Canelo is the champion...that's a fact....GGG being the best is an opinion and opinions don't make the record books

GGG being the best isn't an opinion. He's the best MW no one considers Canelo the best except a few trolls and Mexicans. GGG has damn cleaned the division out while Canelo is still trying drag opponents down to his imaginary division.

[PeasantCrusha]

how can he be the best middleweight when he hasn't faced the top middleweights


their is no best until they fight each other......the champion is Canelo and the top contenders are GGG, Jacobs and Lee/Saunders winner.(contenders with trinkets, GGG as well)


that's the problem with newbie as boxing fans....they dont want the fighters to earn anything, just have it given to them


nothing is given in boxing, you have to earn it.....He isn't the best middleweight until he fights the best middleweights and he hasnt

EXACTLY. Generation Xbox was ready to elevate GGG beyond the greats for beating an ex 140lb 35 year old named Miguel....

"Yeah but, Cotto is the lineal MW champ doe"

[therealpugilist]

GGG being the best isn't an opinion. He's the best MW no one considers Canelo the best except a few trolls and Mexicans. GGG has damn cleaned the division out while Canelo is still trying drag opponents down to his imaginary division.

only on planet GGG(Grown-men Gone Gay)

[SilverMiles]

only on planet GGG(Grown-men Gone Gay)

I don't even know why i placate to you, you're like the worst troll on this board. GGG King of the MW on any planet in the universe. From Earth to Mars To Canelo-Land to whatever other silly name you can come up with.

Have some respect for the sport.

[therealpugilist]

I don't even know why i placate to you, you're like the worst troll on this board. GGG King of the MW on any planet in the universe. From Earth to Mars To Canelo-Land to whatever other silly name you can come up with.

Have some respect for the sport.

the problem is people like you have no respect for the sport.....all opinion no facts and fan boys with agendas of pumping up fighters with slack resumes

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

GGG is a good fighter with exciting wins however nothing the TS stated was wrong its actually 100% truth