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Do you consider Nonito Donaire to be a hall of famer or an all time great

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  • #31
    HOF? Clearly.
    ATG? Ehh, no.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
      carlos zarate took an all time azz whooping from Wilfredo Gomez.....is he not an ATG


      Gomez took a beating from Sanchez...is he not an ATG



      There are less than 10 undefeated champions ever.....9/10 all the rest took azz whoopings



      please tell me how his resume is weak when he only has 39 fights with 12 of them being against former champions and titlists....he only lost to the huge Walters and got outboxed by Rigo and a loss in his 2nd pro fight
      theres no relevance in his wins unless we count his opponents past accomplishments. when they faced him they were undersized and gun shy. once he started fighting closer to his natural weight he started getting beat up. i respect your point of view but in my view i dont rate his accomplishments that high because his opponents never had a wow factor aside from vic. imo, they came to lose or were picked because their style didnt match well with his. Still, i respect your opinion real pug

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      • #33
        Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
        HOF Maybe, not ATG.

        People give him a lot of flack these days but the guy was a brilliant fighter from around 2007-2012. I think people forget how good he once was.
        Good post.

        I was kinda' irritated with him for a while, but you're right.

        War Nonito.

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        • #34
          Not for me.

          HOF is very possible, but he is not even close to ATG status.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by lefthook2daliva View Post
            Good post.

            I was kinda' irritated with him for a while, but you're right.

            War Nonito.
            agreed

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            • #36
              HOF'er 100%, ppl **** on him but hes a great fighter and fought ppl most would never fight.

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              • #37
                If Gatti is a HOF then sure, why not.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Elotero View Post
                  theres no relevance in his wins unless we count his opponents past accomplishments. when they faced him they were undersized and gun shy. once he started fighting closer to his natural weight he started getting beat up. i respect your point of view but in my view i dont rate his accomplishments that high because his opponents never had a wow factor aside from vic. imo, they came to lose or were picked because their style didnt match well with his. Still, i respect your opinion real pug
                  Thanks bro

                  Height doesn't equate to size

                  Nonito was a flyweight over half his career and fought below that in the ams


                  For example look @ hilario Zapata he was tall AF... Don't mean you're stronger or have an advantage

                  Hearns was tall wasn't super strong and once he got past 147 he got rocked n outmuscled often....was he not great cuz he was taller than his opponents? Even @ 175+....height isn't size


                  It took a freakishly large feather to tko him for the first time...nonito was in fifth division and an atg amateur star rigo who is p4p elite now to outbox him



                  After his meteroic rise n slide people are doing him a disservice and underrating him



                  He is definitely a hall of famer....atg is up for debate



                  People forget how hard something is after they witness it


                  You'd be hardpressed to find anyone who can list every fighter who started @ 112 or less and won titles there and up to 126 more
                  The little divisions are so deep with talent...I'll make it easier....turn pro 112 and won a title above that weight lineal

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                  • #39
                    No.....but would not argue if he got into the hall of fame at all

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                    • #40
                      ATG? Only 1 or 2 will be ATG in our era TBH.

                      HOF? Well it's much more lineant

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