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I think HBO would make a huge star out of Wilder
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I think there is some truth in what Kathy Duva says about the stars in boxing are being built on HBO. HBO is synonymous with quality in boxing even still today with its always dwindling budget. So yea for sure Deontay Wilder vs whoever on HBO is a bigger fight than Deontay Wilder vs whoever on PBC on whatever & Deontay Wilder is bigger on HBO than PBC on whatever no question in my mind.
I'm a fan of PBC & am rooting for its success, but I'm hard pressed to name many stars created off of HBO in this or the last era. I do contend that you can make stars via national TV (I became a fan of Tony Lopez & Jorge Paez-still one of my all time favorites from their NBC fights back in the day), but that method of building stars is rusty to say the least with HBO taking over exclusively for the last 30 or so years since national TV has built a star (that I'm aware of anyway). -
one thing is certain. He would be landing alot more "BIG RIGHT HAND!!!!" shots...Comment
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I don't think PBC is trying to make stars. They're trying to build a brand. I'm not saying the don't want their fighters to be well known but I don't think the're trying to build another Mayweather. Building one star is a mistake, you can't rely on one person to carry you. If PBC was built on Floyd they'd be in big trouble right now. We're witnessing right now what happens when your company relies on one star. GBP can't risk a Canelo/GGG fight because Canelo is their only star. K2 couldn't risk a GGG/Ward fight because GGG is their only star (well once Wlad retires). Main Events couldn't risk Kovalev/Stevenson happening last year because Kovalev is their only star and the only thing keeping them on HBO.
I think PBC is looking at the UFC model. It seems like UFC has a new star every year. McGregor is the top dog right now but in a year they'll have a new star. They crank out stars like a machine. If the NBA relied solely on Jordan they'd be out of business. If the NFL relied solely on Montana they'd be out of business. PBC can't focus on building one person bigger than the business.Comment
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You Damn sure he would, but you bet that he wouldn't be fighting not rated foes on HBO.Comment
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Hbo doesn't really sign foreign fighters to exclusive contracts, unless they plan on fighting in the states.
I'm sure next year they will buy some of his fights though, especially now that they don't need to buy Wlads anymore.
This year hbo had there hands tied, as much of there $ this year was spent a long time ago. Thank you Al Haymon...Comment
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It's possible but I don't think so and here's why. Wilder already has the hatred of a lot of the hard core boxing fans. And hatred drives up the numbers.Comment
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Yes, obviously, there's a much bigger viewership.Comment
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Deontay Wilder vs Johan Duhaupas was seen by an average audience approaching 2.4m people, significantly beyond the 2.15m average that HBO was able to draw for the Alvarez-Kirkland, it's high-water number but a number that was likely goosed by the lead-in that was the replay of the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight (the most anticipated fight of this generation and arguably the most anticipated fight in 40 years). To that, you can also add the 1.24m viewer average that was brought in for Stiverne-Wilder on Showtime (the Molina numbers being an obvious drag).
Wilder again opens up Showtime's boxing year with Wilder-Szpilka, has a massive Wilder-Povetkin fight likely do on Showtime by April/May, will likely fight again on terrestrial TV (primetime CBS/NBC/FOX/possiblly ABC, depending on what opens up) by August/September, before closing out 2016/opening 2017 with a massive Fury-Wilder showdown.
Being an HBO fighter would've likely ended up with more glowing stories from the "boxing press" and less out-and-out hate of his ability by "boxing writers", but there's no way Wilder would've been able to touch the people that he's been able to touch, were he to have been built on HBO.
Look at the type of money that was put behind Wilder's last 5 fights, and imagine HBO committing those resources, lol. $1.6m to the main event for Wilder-Duhaupas, $1.7m committed for the main event for Wilder-Molina, $2m committed to the main event for Stiverne-Wilder, financing Wilder-Gavern on the Porter-Brook quadrupleheader (turns out that number was basically $100k, which is workable), and the ~$400k behind getting Wilder-Scott to chief support Danny Garcia's show.
In two years, if counting everything that went in from the TV side of things, you're looking at HBO having spent $10m-$15m to deliver that same two year stretch of fights for Wilder.Comment
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