Joshua didn't pass the chin check

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  • Furn
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    #21
    People are overating the division a bit by saying a good fighter would have finished him off.

    Sure a Tyson or Lewis would have put him away in that 2nd round for sure even a prime Haye maybe but I'm nit sure thweres that quality of finishers out there right now.

    As far as the chin check goes, this is heavyweoght boxing you are going to get hurt when you get hit thats a given, you need to be able to survive and recover.

    I mean did Holyfield fail the chin check against Bert Cooper or Ali against Henry Cooper ? (Dam those Coopers hit hard!)

    Needs to learn alot more sure but silly to write him off when he showed alot of good traits in that fight.

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    • Slick_Rick
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      #22
      There are few heavyweights in history, if any, that have passed a "chin check", if a chin check is never showing signs for being hurt when hit by a big puncher.

      They are huge 6.4" plus guys. So what if he was staggered a bit, he didnt go down and recovered pretty quickly.

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      • Ernie Mavers
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        #23
        Originally posted by Ray*
        You can never please boxing fans, Joshua is a prospect at HW. A weight where one punch can do anything to a big man.
        It's not about pleasing us, this is how boxing is, and has been forever. People are incredibly critical of up and coming prospects, especially fighters that could potentially be heavyweight champion. It's not personal, nature of the beast.

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        • Ernie Mavers
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          #24
          Originally posted by alexguiness
          You have to give Joshua some credit for the win.

          But there were moments in the fight were he looked very shaky indeed.

          Credit to Whyte, he came to fight and gave Joshua no respect at all.

          Joshua came through a tough test, but he is still pretty unproven.

          The hype over him is just ridiculous.
          Good post, I agree

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          • Ernie Mavers
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            #25
            Originally posted by mann187
            I wouldnt say he didnt pass it, i say he freezes when he gets hurt similiar to Bruno. He came back well, kept his composure during the fight, however Dillian simply didnt throw the right shots.

            Whyte got too caught up in destroying Joshua, he forgot to compose himself, throw the short shots inside and measure his long shots on the outside, which in turn allowed Joshua to re compose himself.

            Pros;

            Solid power - Whyte fell the full force of it
            Composed himself - during the attack on him
            Went 7 rounds (still wary about his stamina)

            Cons;

            Stamina - Whyte simply gassed himself too so was easier for him to keep energy

            Footwork- after he got hit, he looked amatuerish in his approach

            Range of punches with a moving target- he seems to throw the 1-2 over and over again, need more variety.

            Needs to remould his body- that extra muscle is not doing him favours, slim the upperbody and then youll have a more complete fighter

            He needs fluidity in his movement, its ok when the opponent is not on his level, but at world level someone will put him out unless he works on these things IMO. Slim down, gain stamina and ring experience which he CAN STILL DO!

            Hes only 26, no more talk of Fury, **** if Haye has anything left, hell do a job on him, i saw him chomping at the bit in the commentary haha.
            If he turns out to be as overrated as Frank Bruno was, I will be incredibly disappointed.

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            • Furn
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              #26
              Originally posted by Ernie Mavers
              If he turns out to be as overrated as Frank Bruno was, I will be incredibly disappointed.
              Who would beat a prime Bruno now though ?

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                #27
                He passed the chin check for me. That shot Whyte landed in the 2nd was legit. He's definitely not got a David Price jaw.

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                • New England
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                  #28
                  his chin did not look bad. this is HW boxing. a lot of you aren't familiar with it, and that's fine. big shots from big guys WILL hurt you if the punches are clean and on the chin. it's a matter of weathering the storm, and joshua did that.

                  white showed a heck of a beard himself. he got cold early on. after that he was taking the shots well until the big right hand put him on stank legs.

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                  • mann187
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ernie Mavers
                    If he turns out to be as overrated as Frank Bruno was, I will be incredibly disappointed.
                    Haha yeah me too, I hope he does well, but in the UK people need to stop thinking the HW champ should be a Body Builder.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by denium
                      He passed the chin check for me. That shot Whyte landed in the 2nd was legit. He's definitely not got a David Price jaw.


                      exactly. david price would still be on the canvas.


                      remember when a light tony thompson shot had him rolling around on the floor like he was on fire ?

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