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  • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
    Yeah and GGG's contract with HBO is up. It goes both ways so what's your point?

    And everything, I repeat EVERYTHING is negotiable in the world of business.
    You're robbing ggg fans of their biggest excuse. Apparently, we as fans shouldn't push for the best fighting the best. Boxing fans want a sport that's divided by networks and that's perfectly ok with Golovkin fans. Just because Ward went to HBO and jumped up a weight class in order to pursue greater challenges doesn't mean that we should be encouraging that sort of thing. It's unfair to guys who want to do nothing with their careers.

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    • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
      Sure, but didn't Lara get on twitter and challenge GGG and instruct his manager to make the fight on the business side?
      Haha.. Twitter...haha... you must be joking. Anyone can tweet.

      Does this manager of Lara have no cell phone or what? Can you ask him if he talked to Haymon about these names he's dropping?

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      • Originally posted by Derranged View Post
        Lara really shouldn't get a shot at either of those guys until he moves up to 160 and has at least a couple of fights. What's funny is that you say Jacobs shouldn't fight Lara but Golovkin should, despite the fact that if and when Golovkin beat him, you'd just chalk that up as another "easy/hand picked opponent" for Golovkin.

        Unless Golovkin moves up to 168, he should definitely fight Jacobs. But if Jacobs has a contract with Showtime then I don't know how its going to happen.
        I think Lara should get a shot at GGG especially when you look at the less deserving fighters before him that did get a shot. Let's face it, Lara is high risk-low reward so of course I would want GGG to fight Lara especially since he's also high risk-low reward and is always complaining about finding a worthy challenger. And know I personally wouldn't chalk Lara up as an easy challenger if GGG were to beat him.

        GGG's contract with HBO is up so he's more than capable of negotiating a contract with Jacobs.

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        • Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
          You're robbing ggg fans of their biggest excuse. Apparently, we as fans shouldn't push for the best fighting the best. Boxing fans want a sport that's divided by networks and that's perfectly ok with Golovkin fans. Just because Ward went to HBO and jumped up a weight class in order to pursue greater challenges doesn't mean that we should be encouraging that sort of thing. It's unfair to guys who want to do nothing with their careers.
          My thing is instead of pressuring the networks to make fights, a lot of posters would rather accuse the fighter they don't favor of "ducking" which is biasedly wrong.

          Originally posted by JQside View Post
          Haha.. Twitter...haha... you must be joking. Anyone can tweet.

          Does this manager of Lara have no cell phone or what? Can you ask him if he talked to Haymon about these names he's dropping?
          I don't even have a twitter account, but to be fair, this is how the majority of negotiations are started and conducted in soon to be 2016.

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          • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
            I don't even have a twitter account, but to be fair, this is how the majority of negotiations are started and conducted in soon to be 2016.
            I don't have twitter either.

            I was saying GG is not that big of a star like Pac or Floyd. Lara has probably more resources when it comes to negotiations. He's got Haymon. He can make his own offer just like anyone else with his current stature. All he has to do is tell his management team to work on the fights he wants.

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            • Originally posted by JQside View Post
              I don't have twitter either.

              I was saying GG is not that big of a star like Pac or Floyd. Lara has probably more resources when it comes to negotiations. He's got Haymon. He can make his own offer just like anyone else with his current stature. All he has to do is tell his management team to work on the fights he wants.
              I think Lara is having just as hard a time of finding opponents as GGG (i.e. Zaveck, Smith and Rodriguez), which is why it makes sense for Team Golovkin to be responsive to his challenge and call him out on the bluff if need be.

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              • Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                I think Lara should get a shot at GGG especially when you look at the less deserving fighters before him that did get a shot. Let's face it, Lara is high risk-low reward so of course I would want GGG to fight Lara especially since he's also high risk-low reward and is always complaining about finding a worthy challenger. And know I personally wouldn't chalk Lara up as an easy challenger if GGG were to beat him.

                GGG's contract with HBO is up so he's more than capable of negotiating a contract with Jacobs.
                Golovkin appears to have atleast one fight left under HBO, even then he's not leaving them, especially with the potential Alvarez fight on the table. I do hope he sets it up so that he won't be able to be stripped through purse bid.

                As for Lara, Loeffler has openly stated that Lara's team have never called them but are free to do so. If there's politics blocking a Golovkin/Jacobs fight, those same politics would block a Golovkin/Lara or Golovkin/DeGale.

                It does sound like Jacobs is considering one JMW - Stephen Edwards said J-Rock will move up to 160 and fight Jacobs in Brooklyn.

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                • Originally posted by JQside View Post
                  Exactly. It goes both ways. You can't just sit on your ass and wait for GG or Jacobs to send an offer to you. GG and Jacobs are not even Pac or Floyd. Lara can make his own offer and send them to the guys he's calling.

                  Look at Leo Santa Cruz. He got sick of being bashed for fighting sparring partners. What did he do? He instructed his management team to make the Mares fight. He's determined not to fight anyone but Mares. He got it.
                  why he didnt try to make Rogondeaux fight?

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                  • Good fight let's see it happen

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                    • Originally posted by BendOver View Post
                      why he didnt try to make Rogondeaux fight?
                      That one aggravated the bashing for LSC. So he had to do something to appease the fans. He had to fire up instructions to his management team that they give him Mares.

                      As for Rigondeux, I don't know. He's saying in a video clip it's, you know, promoters doe. Talk to me promoter.

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