GGG vs Quillin

[sugar ray lenrd]

[QUOTE=bojangles1987;16292808]LOL at Fetta saying Quillin or Jacobs would be the best fighters on Golovkin's record by far. No they wouldn't. Both guys have done nothing and beaten no one. Jacobs especially, he's like 4th or 5th compared to Golovkin's best wins.

SUGAR RAY LENRD:
Totally disagree w/ u here, Fetta is right. Let's say GGG beats Jacobs & Quillin, who in GGG's resume is better then these two?...Who?...Who? (Remember Quillin beat rosado same as GGG did)

[Fetta]

Geale was a former unified champ. Murray arguably beat Sergio Martinez in Argentina. Lemieux was IBF champion with the same best win as Peter Quillin. Macklin beat Sturm. Rosado fought dead even with Quillin, he's at least as good a win. Neither Jacobs or Quillin have done more than any of these guys. Quillin's only good win is N'Dam, which is the same as Lemieux's best win. He has beaten no one else worth a damn. Jacobs has beaten literally no one. You can't name one worthwhile win Jacobs has.

GGG's resume looks like Floyd Mayweather's compared to either guy.

wow looking at that, Quillin would be the best fighter on that resume but who am i kidding its GGG so why even fight. Just add the name, they had a sparring session that ended on a cut. Thats good enough.

I wanna see the fight and wont make excuses for either.

[sugar ray lenrd]

Quillin fails the first test against Golovkin which is stopping him from hitting you. One of the first things you notice with Quillin is that he fights scared, a little like Wlad in that he's afraid to fall short with a shot. No one that tentative is going to beat Golovkin. If he ever faces Quillin he will stalk him relentlessly and Quillin won't be able to stick the pace nor the punishment. Just look at his activity plummeted against Andy Lee in the second half of the fight. That sort of fighter won't survive 10 rounds against Golovkin, never mind beat him.

If Quillin had a strong inside game, or a sharp defence, or the ability to move constantly on the outside then he could cause problems for Golovkin. But he has none of those things so he will lose.

Good post & makes a lot of sense...But what if Quillin hurts him before the 6th round?....what if pete grows some balls & goes out ala Hearns/Haggler...I'm wishing for a great fight....

[AKAcronym]

Are we saying that if Jacobs beat Quillin, he would be the best fighter on GGG's resume, or are we saying that Jacobs before Quillin would be? Because I can understand the former, but the latter is complete nonsense. You may think he's the best fighter because of the eye test, but for those who ALWAYS use resume to back up a fighter, then Jacobs simply cannot be the best fighter that would hypothetically be on Golovkin's resume, if we're talking about if they fought before Jacobs/Quillin.

[bojangles1987]

wow looking at that, Quillin would be the best fighter on that resume but who am i kidding its GGG so why even fight. Just add the name, they had a sparring session that ended on a cut. Thats good enough.

I wanna see the fight and wont make excuses for either.

You literally have no facts or basis that supports saying Quillin is the best fighter Golovkin has ever fought. None at all. Neither his wins or performances in those wins show it. He couldn't even beat N'Dam as impressively as Lemieux, and that is Quillin's best win. He's at a level with a guy who is maybe the 2nd best win Golovkin has, and that's a big maybe. Lemeiux's around 3rd or 4th probably.

And I would LOVE to see Golovkin **** that fraud up. Golovkin isn't the reason it hasn't happened, no matter how much you delude yourself otherwise.

You're not fooling anyone, man. You know you aren't.

[sugar ray lenrd]

Are we saying that if Jacobs beat Quillin, he would be the best fighter on GGG's resume, or are we saying that Jacobs before Quillin would be? Because I can understand the former, but the latter is complete nonsense. You may think he's the best fighter because of the eye test, but for those who ALWAYS use resume to back up a fighter, then Jacobs simply cannot be the best fighter that would hypothetically be on Golovkin's resume, if we're talking about if they fought before Jacobs/Quillin.

Hey to be quite honest forget about resume's, Quillin is underfeated, A champion (WBO, Champs should lose there belts in the ring), he's beaten & KO'd N'dam who everybody made a big stink when Lemuix beat him by decision, & he's also beaten Rosado, same as GGG & Lemuix has. So he's earned that right & hopefully this fight can be made.

[bojangles1987]

[QUOTE=sugar ray lenrd;16292873]

LOL at Fetta saying Quillin or Jacobs would be the best fighters on Golovkin's record by far. No they wouldn't. Both guys have done nothing and beaten no one. Jacobs especially, he's like 4th or 5th compared to Golovkin's best wins.

SUGAR RAY LENRD:
Totally disagree w/ u here, Fetta is right. Let's say GGG beats Jacobs & Quillin, who in GGG's resume is better then these two?...Who?...Who? (Remember Quillin beat rosado same as GGG did)

Quillin needed a bull**** stoppage over a scratch to get a decision win over Rosado in a fight he was arguably losing. So no, he didn't beat Rosado the same as Golovkin.

Geale, Murray, and Lemieux are all better wins than Quillin would be at this moment. It's not even a debate. Jacobs would be 4th or 5th at best on Golovkin's record. Maybe not even that.

[AKAcronym]

Hey to be quite honest forget about resume's, Quillin is underfeated, A champion (WBO, Champs should lose there belts in the ring), he's beaten & KO'd N'dam who everybody made a big stink when Lemuix beat him by decision, & he's also beaten Rosado, same as GGG & Lemuix has. So he's earned that right & hopefully this fight can be made.

I was talking about Jacobs, not Quillin.

[Fetta]

You literally have no facts or basis that supports saying Quillin is the best fighter Golovkin has ever fought. None at all. Neither his wins or performances in those wins show it. He couldn't even beat N'Dam as impressively as Lemieux, and that is Quillin's best win. He's at a level with a guy who is maybe the 2nd best win Golovkin has, and that's a big maybe. Lemeiux's around 3rd or 4th probably.

And I would LOVE to see Golovkin **** that fraud up. Golovkin isn't the reason it hasn't happened, no matter how much you delude yourself otherwise.

You're not fooling anyone, man. You know you aren't.

Well i can drop things like "arguably beat" or "needed a stoppage to win" or i can list other fighters accolades but i wont ill leave that to you.


Best fighter on resume. Agree to disagree

[Eastcoast]

Eh, doesn't really matter what I think. Nobody was truly hurt at that point, but the judges had Pirog behind.

I'm still sad his back gave out, Pirog had some cool moves.

The GB judges had Pirog behind, but Pirog was undressing Jacobs. He nearly stopped Danny in the 1st round. I gave Danny just one round. Just like the GB judges weren't giving rounds to N'Dam when he was clearly outboxing Quillin in the rounds where he wasn't knocked down.