Black fighters don't always beat Mexicans and Mexicans don't always beat Easter Euros

[Boxfan83]

This is in response to Bread's Mailbag where he claims that Mexicans are struggling against Blacks, Blacks are struggling against Eastern Euros and Eastern Euros have a hard time against Mexicans.

So he says that Barrera lost to Junior Jones hence he struggles against black fighters. Well, how about Barrera knocking out Kennedy Mckinney?
How about Barrera knocking out Kevin Kelley?

Then he goes onto Morales losing to Zahir Rahim, I mean fair enough but how about Morales knocking out Kevin Kelley and Junior Jones?

He mentions Juan Manuel Marquez losing to Bradley, well how about him beating Gainer, Casamayor and the Freddy Norwood fight should've been a win for him as well.

Then onto Margarito losing to Mosley and Paul Williams. I mean alright but he also beat Joshua Clottey and Andrew Williams.

Let's go onto Rafael Marquez now. He beat Mark Jonson twice, Tim Austin and although Silence Mambuza is from South Africa he is still black and he beat him twice as well.

Winky Wright got beat by Vargas and I know that Vasquez is from Argentina but that still doesn't mean that Winky should be getting off the floor 5 times and getting beat up by a Hispanic fighter, right?

Ricardo Williams losing to the rugged Juan Valenzuela.

Librado Adrade beating Otis Grant and Yusaf Mack.

Jose Luis Castillo - he beat Stevie Johnson, he beat Corrales, the first fight against Floyd could've gone to him.

Chris Arreola was fed with mostly black urban fighters until Vitaly dismantled him.

Most recently we have one of the better prospects in Amir Imam getting annihilated by a Mexican kid and that was picture perfect because Amir is a slick black fighter and Granados is a face first brawler.

Now onto Mexicans beating Eastern European fighters - I can't think of many matches. Well, Bread says that Lomachenko lost to Salido but won against Gary Russel so therefore eastern euros struggle against Mexicans and they beat black fighters. Wrong again!

Lomachenko did get a loss against Salido but Salido didn't make weight, came in as a WW and threw 30 solid low blows for which he didn't get penalized, not even a warning.

In the pro ranks I can't think of many fights b/w Mexicans and Eastern Euros and I can't think of Mexicans beating Euros.

Off the top of my head, Librado Adrade lost to Lucian Butte. Chris Arreolla lost to Vitaly and Thomas Adamek. Chavez Jr losing to Fonfara. Rubio losing to GGG. Ok, so he is wrong again, Bread that is.

Now let's go to Eastern Euros beating black fighters which Bread says is the norm.

Right now we have GGG and Kovalev who haven't really faced many elite great black fighters but Kovalev did face Bhop and Kovalev and he should get the credit and I am not being sarcastic. I remember Pirog knocking out, what's his name, the guy that is supposed to fight Quillin now.

Adonis Stevenson beat Fonfara. Chad Dawson beat Adamek. Bhop beat Beibet Shumenov. Vasilii Jirov beat a lot of black fighters that's until he met James Toney. Wlad getting knocked out by Brewster and he quit against another black fighter that I'm not looking up right now. Vitaly lost to Byrd and Lewis albeit controversial.

At the end of the day I don't know what Bread eats, drinks and smokes but his theory is flawed and I just gave you some examples where Mexicans don't always struggle against blacks (they actually win half of the times). Eastern Euros almost never struggle against Mexicans and blacks don't always struggle against Eastern Euros.

For a professional writer to bring up race he must really be struggling with gaining an audience either in a good or bad way. I didnt read his last mailbag but I can tell you I wont read anymore now. Really what could have been said to sum all this blacks beat Mexican, Mexicans beat Euros is, "styles make fights" simple as that. Some fighters do well against mobile boxers while others cant take pressure etc...

[pesticid]

I forgot about Canelo, he beat Austin Trout when everyone was saying that Trout was the truth and I believe he was only 18 when he beat Larry Mosley and Larry Mosley can ****ing fight.

[Luiz]

I thought about it but I don't know how, what's his email address?

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[Eff Pandas]

I wonder if NFLScene.com or NBAScene.com gots to deal with racial discussions in there forums every other day.

[pesticid]

For a professional writer to bring up race he must really be struggling with gaining an audience either in a good or bad way. I didnt read his last mailbag but I can tell you I wont read anymore now. Really what could have been said to sum all this blacks beat Mexican, Mexicans beat Euros is, "styles make fights" simple as that. Some fighters do well against mobile boxers while others cant take pressure etc...

Good point but I wouldn't even say "styles make fights". You could have a Zab Judah and a Pernel Whitaker who have more or less the same style but it's the quality of the fighter. Lemule and GGG have a seek and destroy type of style but it's the fighter.

I mean some people compare the style of Broner to Mayweather and again it's the quality of the fighter. Mayweather will never have a close fight with Paulie or Ponce de Leon.

So I can't even say that it's styles because everybody thought that Amir Imam with his style would beat Granados, heck, he took him as a tune-up and he got trashed. So the better fighter won and not the better style. I don't think there is a superior style. I've seen the Cuban champ in the Amateurs Argilagos lose a fight against a Mexican kid from Mexico and Argilagos appeared to have the superior style but he wasn't the superior fighter and he lost.

[D-MiZe]

For a professional writer to bring up race he must really be struggling with gaining an audience either in a good or bad way.

Agreed.

I don't know who this Bread **** is but he's reaching with a race angle to try and demonstrate a fighter's weakness. Fuck sake, it's worse than the guy who picked star signs to show who'd win in a match-up - at least that was entertaining.

[TripleGFightFan]

I'm not a Mexican lol

We're all one bro...and we're all black...just close your eyes...



BLACK and white twins Hayleigh and Lauren Durrant proudly hold their new sisters Leah and Miya — who incredibly are ALSO twins with different coloured skin.

Their mixed-race parents Dean Durrant and Alison Spooner repeated the two-tone miracle after a seven-year gap.



Black parents give birth to white baby...we're all one bro...

[Boxfan83]

We're all one bro...and we're all black...just close your eyes...



BLACK and white twins Hayleigh and Lauren Durrant proudly hold their new sisters Leah and Miya — who incredibly are ALSO twins with different coloured skin.

Their mixed-race parents Dean Durrant and Alison Spooner repeated the two-tone miracle after a seven-year gap.



Black parents give birth to white baby...we're all one bro...

I think to sum things up instead of bringing up skin color, I think its best said we are all one race, THE HUMAN RACE /thread...

[b00g13man]

This is a pretty ****** conversation to have.

[Mr. Philadel]

We're all one bro...and we're all black...just close your eyes...



BLACK and white twins Hayleigh and Lauren Durrant proudly hold their new sisters Leah and Miya — who incredibly are ALSO twins with different coloured skin.

Their mixed-race parents Dean Durrant and Alison Spooner repeated the two-tone miracle after a seven-year gap.



Black parents give birth to white baby...we're all one bro...

The "Eve" Gene....it's only found in BLACK women....they can give birth to ALL skin colors