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  • Muhammad Ali should change his name to The Second Greatest. Floyd is The Greatest

    Muhammad Ali is great, but not The Greatest. Muhammad Ali has 5 losses. I don't see Ali winning championship belts in FIVE different weight classes. I don't see Muhammad Ali selling 4 million PPV. I don't see Ali defeating 23 world/former world champions. However, I DO see Ali getting knocked out by Larry Holmes. I aint ever seen anyone knocking Floyd out.

    Floyd Mayweather = Greatest boxer in history and will possibly remain The Greatest for at least another 10,000 years.

    Muhammad Ali = Great heavyweight boxer, one of the best in his era.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Console3344 View Post
    Muhammad Ali is great, but not The Greatest. Muhammad Ali has 5 losses. I don't see Ali winning championship belts in FIVE different weight classes. I don't see Muhammad Ali selling 4 million PPV. I don't see Ali defeating 23 world/former world champions. However, I DO see Ali getting knocked out by Larry Holmes. I aint ever seen anyone knocking Floyd out.

    Floyd Mayweather = Greatest boxer in history and will possibly remain The Greatest for at least another 10,000 years.

    Muhammad Ali = Great heavyweight boxer, one of the best in his era.
    Dude... I have Floyd down as the greatest boxer to lace them up but some of the points you mentioned were pure bull****.

    1) Ali was a heavyweight. It's physically impossible for him to fight in 5 divisions bro, wtf.

    2) PPV Numbers shouldn't justify how great a fighter is, it justifies their popularity. Don't forget, Pacquiao was half of the reason why 4.6 million homes bought the PPV.

    3) With the modern state of all these governing bodies, there are more world champions today than there ever was. So this point is kind of invalid when comparing the number of champions on Floyd's resume to Ali's.

    4) Ali was THE GREATEST of his era. Not one of.
    Last edited by Bozbay; 12-02-2015, 04:34 AM.

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    • #3
      If you want to share your opinion on who is the greatest, that's fine. But if you want to share your reasons why, based on facts, make sure your points are valid bro.

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      • #4
        Console3344.You need help either emotionally or for Floyd to you know what.I mean, who the $#%& starts a thread on the same person 3 times in one day? And the guy is retired?
        Go to bed or work and get off the comp unless you've got something useful to spout off about.Got damn.

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        • #5
          Manny Pacquaio is the greatest lb for lb. He fought Mayweather to a close decision victory, only to be robbed, with only 1 arm!!

          Floyd Mayweather is the 2nd best boxer of all time.

          As for Muhammad Ali, he ranks about number 5 in an achievement sense after Wladimir Kltischko, Vitali Klitschko, Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes.

          In H2H terms he definitely ranks in the top 100 but it's a far fetched fantasy to assume he ranks higher than top 50.

          ^ This is actually flattering since he boxed 50 years ago!!

          Muhammad Ali is literally a bum compared with Floyd in summary.

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          • #6
            Muhammad Ali will always be a better fighter to me over floyd

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BlackSoul View Post
              Muhammad Ali will always be a better fighter to me over floyd
              Name one SINGLE thing Ali did better than Floyd?

              Name one SINGLE opponent Ali beat who was of comparable quality to those Mayweather beat?

              Some nut bags are unbelievable!

              I hate Mayweather's guts, I am Manny over Mayweather through and through but it is an insult, a STINKING INSULT to compare Mayweather unfavourably to this level!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Console3344 View Post
                Muhammad Ali is great, but not The Greatest. Muhammad Ali has 5 losses. I don't see Ali winning championship belts in FIVE different weight classes. I don't see Muhammad Ali selling 4 million PPV. I don't see Ali defeating 23 world/former world champions. However, I DO see Ali getting knocked out by Larry Holmes. I aint ever seen anyone knocking Floyd out.

                Floyd Mayweather = Greatest boxer in history and will possibly remain The Greatest for at least another 10,000 years.

                Muhammad Ali = Great heavyweight boxer, one of the best in his era.
                yes, you make perfect sense!!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
                  Name one SINGLE thing Ali did better than Floyd?

                  Name one SINGLE opponent Ali beat who was of comparable quality to those Mayweather beat?

                  Some nut bags are unbelievable!

                  I hate Mayweather's guts, I am Manny over Mayweather through and through but it is an insult, a STINKING INSULT to compare Mayweather unfavourably to this level!!

                  name ONE PRIME FIGHTER mayweather beat who wasnt coming off of a loss
                  its easy to look good when you can wait on opponents and choose WHEN to face them
                  Ali had a better JAB than mayweather
                  had way better FOOTWORK than mayweather
                  had better STAMINA than mayweather
                  had a better CHIN than mayweather
                  put COMBINATIONS together better than mayweather
                  he could CARRY HIS POWER into later rounds better than mayweather
                  fought HOF'ers in their PRIME win or lose mostly won and was robbed of THREE YEARS OF HIS PRIME and became the first HEAVYWEIGHT to become champ 3 times when there was only ONE PATH TO THE BELT AND HAD TO FACE CONTENDERS
                  Ali fought in MANY different areas and countries and WON and didnt stay and rely on vegas judging.
                  Ali was defensive but never TOO defensive as to where it will STUNT his offense
                  we have to talk about Ali in STAGES bc a PRIME ALI BEFORE THE THREE YEAR BAN WAS A SIGHT TO BEHOLD.

                  mayweather beat an OLD jmm coming up TWO weight classes, and he STILL didnt make weight, old de la hoya(split decision), old shane mosley, zab judah coming off a LOSS, fought twice jose luis castillo,
                  please dont you EVER try to compare RESUME'S with Ali on behalf of mayweather

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                  • #10
                    Ali has better resume and intangibles. I'll give him that.

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