'If I could be half as good a champion as Vladimir, I'd be happy' - Tyson Fury

[Robbie Barrett]

19 defences of the lineal title... Hell even a quarter of that would be something you, your kids, your grandkids, your great grandchildren can boast about for the rest of their lives.

Klitschko became lineal when he beat Chagaev. He has 11 defences.

[JJRod]

His title reign doesn't have to be as long as Wlad, as long as it's more entertaining. Wlad was vanilla, Fury is someone people will tune in for.

[soul_survivor]

Wlad has a puncher's chance in a rematch but for over a decade, Wlad has not acted like a puncher. If the opportunity is there, he can take but but he never chases a KO. It's not in his DNA. That's sad because Wlad can take that title back if he does so.

[deathofaclown]

Wlad has a puncher's chance in a rematch but for over a decade, Wlad has not acted like a puncher. If the opportunity is there, he can take but but he never chases a KO. It's not in his DNA. That's sad because Wlad can take that title back if he does so.

Yeah, he never chases it, He's extremely safety first for a guy of such power. A guy like Floyd you can understand when he's not a big puncher.

I honestly just think he's fought the same way for so long in a dominating way that he's become absolutely stuck in that style which is why he couldn't adjust. He looked very lost last night. That style be perfected and dominated with come back to bite him last night. He doesn't know anything else now.

I just can't see how at 39 he's going to suddenly develop another way to adjust to fighters. I'd take Fury again to outbox him, it's a stylistic nightmare for Wlad. I really give Wlad a punchers chance, it would be foolish not to. Sounds very weird saying Wlad has a punchers chance in a fight but that's what it is.

He's just ran into a guy like Fury, who is a nightmare opponent for him and where his flaws or short comings play right into Fury's strengths as a boxer. It is what it is. Some people just have your number.

[soul_survivor]

Yeah, he never chases it, He's extremely safety first for a guy of such power. A guy like Floyd you can understand when he's not a big puncher.

I honestly just think he's fought the same way for so long in a dominating way that he's become absolutely stuck in that style which is why he couldn't adjust. He looked very lost last night. That style be perfected and dominated with come back to bite him last night. He doesn't know anything else now.

I just can't see how at 39 he's going to suddenly develop another way to adjust to fighters. I'd take Fury again to outbox him, it's a stylistic nightmare for Wlad. I really give Wlad a punchers chance, it would be foolish not to. Sounds very weird saying Wlad has a punchers chance in a fight but that's what it is.

He's just ran into a guy like Fury, who is a nightmare opponent for him and where his flaws or short comings play right into Fury's strengths as a boxer. It is what it is. Some people just have your number.

Pretty much.

Wlad would have to revert back to his 20 something self, the guy who got KOd but came looking to throw lots of punches, big, hard shots. Then again, that leaves him open for the KO and he is absolutely mortified of that. He has to let that fear go.

[Eff Pandas]

The most hilarious part of the post-fight presser is right after Tyson says that line Wladimir takes the longest drink of the beer on the presser table & I imagine him thinking "how the f#ck did I get here".