Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko: I Knew I Needed a Knockout To Win

[NEETzschean]

Very well put. Wlad (since Emanuel) has always had this approach. Wlad throws punches only if the opponent is in position. As soon as the opponent has an awkward style like Haye, Ibragimov, Thompson, Chambers, Jennings and now Fury, Wlad refuses to throw. Usually Wlad is so dominant that 1) the few punches he waits for to throw are enough to KO his opponents 2) he wins every round even without KOing his opponents.

This typical strategy, however, failed against Fury and it had nothing to do with "Wlad being shot". It had something to do with the fact that Fury's style annihilates Wlad's "wait-until-the-opponent-is-in-position", because Fury is never in position. Wlad will now go back to the drawing board, adjust his style (= throw even when not in perfect position), have 1-2 "tune up" fights to try this new style, then face Fury, KO Fury, get his belts back, and retire.

After his KO loss Fury will most probably continue to box and will become a very dominant champ for a long time.

Fury had got in Wlad's head before the first fight and would have been in his head to an even greater degree in the rematch considering that he had defeated Wlad in Germany, which was the only time in Wlad's career he had been outboxed and not just marginally but in a dominant and humiliating schooling in front of his home fans. Fury was 26.25 years old and pre-prime at the time of the fight, while Wlad was 39.66 and slightly post-prime. In any rematch, Fury would have not just been more confident and Wlad less so but more skilled, experienced and mature, thus closer to his prime, whereas Wlad would have deteriorated slightly and would have had to travel to Manchester where everything would have been set up for Fury to win, just as it was for Wlad in Germany. Say Wlad had got 1-2 tune up fights before facing Fury; he would have been 40.5 (having sustained more wear and tear from the Fury defeat and a couple more fights and training camps) to Fury's 27 and Fury would have known exactly what Wlad's strategy would have been in the rematch: leap in and let his hands go but this would have thrown Wlad off balance, left him open to counters and drained his gas tank, while Fury would be faster, more evasive, have better stamina and as the bigger man be able to tie up more effectively and lean on Wlad. Fury also had far more tools when it came to inside fighting, so he would have outworked Wlad from the clinch.

I get that you like Wlad but what happened in no way discredits anything on your website, in fact it supports some of your central arguments:
1. Fighters who were great from previous eras (Wlad) would generally be beaten by the best modern champion (Fury)
2. Height (2.25 inch advantage) weight (10.25 lbs advantage) and reach (4 inch advantage) matter a lot
3. A higher body fat % can be beneficial provided you have the frame and conditioning to carry it

[BodyBagz]

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[Marchegiano]

Fury had got in Wlad's head before the first fight and would have been in his head to an even greater degree in the rematch considering that he had defeated Wlad in Germany, which was the only time in Wlad's career he had been outboxed and not just marginally but in a dominant and humiliating schooling in front of his home fans. Fury was 26.25 years old and pre-prime at the time of the fight, while Wlad was 39.66 and slightly post-prime. In any rematch, Fury would have not just been more confident and Wlad less so but more skilled, experienced and mature, thus closer to his prime, whereas Wlad would have deteriorated slightly and would have had to travel to Manchester where everything would have been set up for Fury to win, just as it was for Wlad in Germany. Say Wlad had got 1-2 tune up fights before facing Fury; he would have been 40.5 (having sustained more wear and tear from the Fury defeat and a couple more fights and training camps) to Fury's 27 and Fury would have known exactly what Wlad's strategy would have been in the rematch: leap in and let his hands go but this would have thrown Wlad off balance, left him open to counters and drained his gas tank, while Fury would be faster, more evasive, have better stamina and as the bigger man be able to tie up more effectively and lean on Wlad. Fury also had far more tools when it came to inside fighting, so he would have outworked Wlad from the clinch.

I get that you like Wlad but what happened in no way discredits anything on your website, in fact it supports some of your central arguments:
1. Fighters who were great from previous eras (Wlad) would generally be beaten by the best modern champion (Fury)
2. Height (2.25 inch advantage) weight (10.25 lbs advantage) and reach (4 inch advantage) matter a lot
3. A higher body fat % can be beneficial provided you have the frame and conditioning to carry it

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