Wladimir Klitschko had a great career but age caught up with him

[Robbie Barrett]

Oh of course not..

No version of Wladimir Klitschko could have EVER breached that amazing Fury jab and defense right?

No version could EVER have landed more than a handful of punches.

You or anybody else can't POSSIBLY believe that!

Age, laziness, overconfidence, underestimation...

These things had an ENORMOUS amount to do with it!

We can credit Tyson Fury for being much better than anticipated and having enough to CAPITALISE on it.

As bad as Wladimir was, Fury probably couldn't have done what he did if Fury himself was not much better than perceived either.

But don't try to bring your nut baggery into an intelligent thread!

Save the nut baggery for History section where it's the norm.

Prime Wlad fought the same way against every opponent, he only threw combinations when completely in control and dominating a fight with his jab. Wlad is nothing without the jab and he didn't have his usual size and/or skill advantage to do to Fury what he did to everyone else.

[Elroy1]

Mm hmm.

So it's the length that got him was it.

I told a bunch of nut bags that the other day and they swore it was his movement that got him not the length.

I proceeded to tell them that it was his size ALLIED to his other qualities that did it and the nut bags could simply not swallow that his range had anything to do with it (because it didn't serve their larger agenda).

This covers solely the FURY side of victory, but it totally negates the Wladimir side of losing.

You have to see it was a COMBINATION of Fury's goods and Wladimir's own SELF-FAILURE!

The evidence doesn't rule OUT Fury>Wladimir overall, but it VERY STRONGLY reflects that most earlier versions of Wlaidmir waste Fury.

What if Wladimir was suddenly wasted due to his age by a shorter boxer who managed to bull his way in. There would be a DIFFERENT method of reasoning applied by haters like you as to why Wladimir was "exposed" and how he was ALWAYS a bum who simply never met anybody like "hypothetical boxer" before.

If Tyson Fury EVENTUALLY reaches a stage that we can consider him better than ANY version of Wladimir, then I would declare so, otherwise it will be pretty clear he is not in the same overall league.

He could START to try prove it by beating Wlad a second time to prove it wasn't JUST a fluke anyway, then proceed to beat Povetkin, Haye and any of the new upcoming Super's beginning to bear fruit too.

Declaring someone better than the most dominant champ ever for throwing a handful more punches than a guy who threw basically none at all in one single high profile fight is bloody ludicrous!

[Robbie Barrett]

Mm hmm.

So it's the length that got him was it.

I told a bunch of nut bags that the other day and they swore it was his movement that got him not the length.

I proceeded to tell them that it was his size ALLIED to his other qualities that did it and the nut bags could simply not swallow that his range had anything to do with it (because it didn't serve their larger agenda).

This covers solely the FURY side of victory, but it totally negates the Wladimir side of losing.

You have to see it was a COMBINATION of Fury's goods and Wladimir's own SELF-FAILURE!

The evidence doesn't rule OUT Fury>Wladimir overall, but it VERY STRONGLY reflects that most earlier versions of Wlaidmir waste Fury.

What if Wladimir was suddenly wasted due to his age by a shorter boxer who managed to bull his way in. There would be a DIFFERENT method of reasoning applied by haters like you as to why Wladimir was "exposed" and how he was ALWAYS a bum who simply never met anybody like "hypothetical boxer" before.

If Tyson Fury EVENTUALLY reaches a stage that we can consider him better than ANY version of Wladimir, then I would declare so, otherwise it will be pretty clear he is not in the same overall league.

He could START to try prove it by beating Wlad a second time to prove it wasn't JUST a fluke anyway, then proceed to beat Povetkin, Haye and any of the new upcoming Super's beginning to bear fruit too.

Declaring someone better than the most dominant champ ever for throwing a handful more punches than a guy who threw basically none at all in one single high profile fight is bloody ludicrous!

If only boxing was so simple. Fury is just all wrong for Wlad, that doesn't mean Fury can do what Wlad does against other fighters. Styles make fights, you should know this.

[The Hammer]

If only boxing was so simple. Fury is just all wrong for Wlad, that doesn't mean Fury can do what Wlad does against other fighters. Styles make fights, you should know this.

Fury's skill, his style, his height and his reach played into the result, but the main factor was Klitschko's loss of speed because he's approaching his 40th birthday.

No one beats Father Time.

[!! Anorak]

Wlad's punching ability has faded badly at near 40 years of age. He has difficulty in "pulling the trigger".

Same thing happened to Joe Louis at the end.

It's inevitable, prime doesn't last forever.

[The Hammer]

...........

You're getting older too.

[!! Anorak]

I'm Benjamin Button.

[The Hammer]

I'm Benjamin Button.

No. Is aging especially difficult for ****sexuals?

[!! Anorak]

Hasn't your dad told you?

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Wlad is 39 and turns 40 in March.

Damn, didn't know he was there already. It definitely had a lot to do with age.