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Manny "PACMAN" Pacquiao vs. Saul "CANELO" Alvarez at catchweight 155 lbs.?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
    rehydration limits is a joke and dangerous.

    and canelo is NOT fast.

    he looks slower than mummy margarito last weekend. feet AND hands.
    canelo was countering cottos jab, one of the best jabs on the game, you dont need to be as fast as lara to counter pacs leaky defense, now to say that canelo has slow hands you got to be trolling...

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
      rehydration limits is a joke and dangerous.

      and canelo is NOT fast.

      he looks slower than mummy margarito last weekend. feet AND hands.
      His handspeed was pretty good but just wastes so much looping his shots which I think is for visual effect as he wasn't doing loads of damage even though he was loading up like a MF. Footwork for as much as you could see was very slow/plodding. Fair point about pac evading a KO, he can't cut the ring for **** and manny could be on the other side in an instant after a quick 1-2. Add to that Canelo freezes when touched.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by icha View Post
        canelo was countering cottos jab, one of the best jabs on the game, you dont need to be as fast as lara to counter pacs leaky defense, now to say that canelo has slow hands you got to be trolling...
        cotto doesn't have one of the best jabs in the game.

        everyone decent has countered it.

        cotto stops using it because he eats counters.

        cotto fans then cry he lost because he stopped using it.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by CLUNG3-TANK View Post
          His handspeed was pretty good but just wastes so much looping his shots which I think is for visual effect as he wasn't doing loads of damage even though he was loading up like a MF. Footwork for as much as you could see was very slow/plodding. Fair point about pac evading a KO, he can't cut the ring for **** and manny could be on the other side in an instant after a quick 1-2. Add to that Canelo freezes when touched.
          canelo is a boxer and has good d.

          but i think he's better served throwing with opps rather than playing d.

          everytime cotto threw those flashy WORTHLESS combos, canelo would block/dodge them, i was thinking just throw with him, catch his ass in the middle of a punch.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by WSSD View Post
            Disagree. It would be harder, way harder. Not because of Manny's size/power, but because of his quickness. It will look somewhat like Manny vs Rios all over again. But when and if Canelo lands a clean punch, I think Manny will be dreaming again.
            Rios is a punchbag. He is genuinely terrible.

            Canelo is a counter puncher by nature, something Manny always struggles with. Canelo could beat Manny up on the back foot or just walk right through him. It would be an absolute stroll.

            Manny said had trouble with Margarito at 154 who he said was 'too big', and that was a much faster and harder hitting Manny, he would have no chance against Canelo. At all.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Caught Square View Post
              Unless it's at like 150 this would be a disastrous end to Manny's great career.

              155? Manny gets stopped without a doubt. This fight would be what people thought Oscar-Manny would be, a bigger guy simply over powering the smaller guy. Roles are reversed from the Oscar with Pac being the past prime smaller guy against a prime big guy.

              You can't be serious..... or are you lol?
              nothing wrong with getting koed.

              nelo is big, strong, young and talented.

              no shame if pac gets koed.

              BUT THIS IS A CHANCE FOR A DURAN-IRAN MOMENT.

              and it'll be for a load of dough.

              oscar just need to make a side deal with bob.

              like guarantee TR fighters several fights vs. canelo afterwards.

              something to give arum a piece of the canelo pie.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                cotto doesn't have one of the best jabs in the game.

                everyone decent has countered it.

                cotto stops using it because he eats counters.

                cotto fans then cry he lost because he stopped using it.
                and pac doesnt???

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                • #48
                  Canelo would have Manny doing his little hop into so many right hand counters, this fight might be an ugly one-sided affair.

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                  • #49
                    If Pac runs, he wins.......

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                      Rios is a punchbag. He is genuinely terrible.

                      Canelo is a counter puncher by nature, something Manny always struggles with. Canelo could beat Manny up on the back foot or just walk right through him. It would be an absolute stroll.

                      Manny said had trouble with Margarito at 154 who he said was 'too big', and that was a much faster and harder hitting Manny, he would have no chance against Canelo. At all.
                      EVERYONE counterpunches pac. how many had success? floyd? jmm? morales 1? AND?


                      that margarito was faster than this canelo.

                      canelo being a counterpuncher is to pac advantage. he can popshot and pick his spots.

                      marg was all offensive and pressure. putting that extra size to work.

                      you see canelo use his size vs floyd? he walk thru floyd? nope. because he tried to box a superior, faster opponent.

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