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Ward: "im not interested in talking about lil g anymore... I wanna fight the best"
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Posthe gets no credit for that record....Carlos Monzon was wba, wbc and lineal champion when he won the title and defended 14 times
GGG won a "interim" or "regular" title and never fought a champion for it and was elevated to champion status
same with Hopkins he only defended the universal middleweight title 6 times and the ibf trinket 20
stop making up records to pad his resume...the defenses start when your undisputed or lineal
But to GGG's credit when he was regular/interim champ.... neither Sturm or Pirog wanted to fight him. He probably would have KO'd both.
In my opinion middleweight has been terrible for a few years now, ever since Pavlik fell off and Abraham moved up. It was briefly revived with Sergio and Chavez Jr but for the last 4 or 5 years its been lacking in real world class talent.
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Originally posted by NaijaD View PostI agree with most of what you said.... that number of defences record is overrated as hell.
But to GGG's credit when he was regular/interim champ.... neither Sturm or Pirog wanted to fight him. He probably would have KO'd both.
In my opinion middleweight has been terrible for a few years now, ever since Pavlik fell off and Abraham moved up. It was briefly revived with Sergio and Chavez Jr but for the last 4 or 5 years its been lacking in real world class talent.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostI would take what you say here seriously if were applying the same standards to Ward.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda ... my promoter doe ... my shoulder doe ... my tune ups doe ... oww .. ouch .. now my knee hurts .. but yeah, see me, I'm fighting the best me ... I'm fighting Kovalev I am ... oww .. my knee's still sore doe ...
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postyou don't get credit for not fighting....boxing is fighting....I don't care for politics because non of us were at the negotiations.....you get credit for who you fight not for who "ducked" or "avoided" or who you could've should've beat
It's harsh but you're absolutely right, which is why GGG should really start building up to 168 where the better fighters in that weight class would be more likely to face him.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostReally? How many 25 year olds today has ko'ed 8 top 10 ranked opponents, won 15 alphabetworld title fights by KO?
I'll make it easy for you: Just name 3.
Look up chocolatito record up til 2012 when he was 25 on par with GGG and he has done a lot since then
look at Danny Garcia's level of comp up to age 25, wins over erik morales,Matthyssee, amir khan, kendall holt, nate Campbell....
Look at amir khans resume before he turned 26...wins over Judah, maidana, malignaggi, kotelnik
do you need more examples bro....his resume sucks and he has a resume of a fighter in their mid 20s and some of theirs was better then than his is now
I don't say things I cant back up
I have a life so I didn't have time to reply yesterday, had to make that check
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Originally posted by NaijaD View PostLooooL I can tell you're old school.
It's harsh but you're absolutely right, which is why GGG should really start building up to 168 where the better fighters in that weight class would be more likely to face him.
im 30 years old bro, im just what you call a good ole boxing fan....I don't get impressed with talented guys beating overmatched opponents or play the blame game about who ducked who....if the fight didn't happen I blame both sides and move on
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostSo after 4 years of fighting lorry-drivers and bicycle-repairmen, Ward now wants to fight the best Again. Looks like it will be a top LHW next then right?
In other Words I do not believe him. All evidence points in another direction.
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