Ring Ratings: Stevenson stripped

[Chrismart]

Fair enough IMO.

[OnePunch]

OK that is plausible but I can't see it. Kathy has been around a long time and had to know Haymon had big money as he had taken her gig from NBCSports.

This would have to be PPV for HBO and I don't know that it makes HBO its money back. HBO was lowering the budget, so it seems crazy for her to think they would pony up for this fight when, lets face it, this fight is more of a "hardcore" fans fight and not casual fans.

Just a bad miscalculation by Kathy on several fronts.

oh I agree with you 100% on that. "Bad" might not even be a big enough word lol

This debate was never about Kathy's business acumen. The other poster claimed that Kathy requested a purse bid from the WBC, and I simply pointed out that was not accurate. And from that theres 5 pages of that guy trying to convince me (or himself) that it actually happened that way


BTW, heres the old story from when Yvon Michel requested the purse bid. But according to the other poster, this story must be a lie lol

http://www.boxingscene.com/stevensons-promoter-ready-kovalev-purse-bid--89535

[RSBonos]

Im very disappointed in the RING I thought they based their titles on linage - They are starting to act like the rest of the sanctioning bodies. I see 168 is vacant granted the lineal champ S.O.G has moved up to LH but I hate to think that they would of done the same to Ward.

Why? The rule should be a year, and not two years without fighting a top fighter. Basing everything off lineage is faulty thinking, you need some subjectivity.

[TripleGFightFan]

except that Duva NEVER requested that the fight go to bid. She asked for an adjusted split in the event it went to bid, but what she wanted was to freely negotiate the fight. She did not anticipate that Gym would flatly refuse to negotiate at all.

Think about it for a second. WHY would anyone ask for a bid they cant participate in? On what planet would that make any sense?

How many times did negotiations fail before?...Come on man...you gotta know better than this...it was obvious they would not come to an agreement but her move backfired and she had kov sign an exclusive deal anyway when she could have taken the fight...in all fairness stevenson took the best deal for himself as well...but in all fairness again this is prize fighting and you go with the network that offers the most prize money...

[HeroBando]

How many times did negotiations fail before?...Come on man...you gotta know better than this...it was obvious they would not come to an agreement but her move backfired and she had kov sign an exclusive deal anyway when she could have taken the fight...in all fairness stevenson took the best deal for himself as well...but in all fairness again this is prize fighting and you go with the network that offers the most prize money...

Stevenson doesn't have an exclusive network deal. He could go fight Kov on HBO as a one off, and make career best money. But he'd rather take less money for zero risk.

[HeroBando]

Kovalev didn't have an exclusive network deal either. He could have fought Stevenson as a one off and made career best money before signing another HBO deal. But he chose to take less money for less risk.

Your double standard is hilarious.

And he could have lost out on the HBO contract by doing that. Either way, now he's exclusive to HBO and Stevenson is a free agent doing poor numbers against poor opponents since running from HBO. He's got a 50/50 offer from 3 belt champ on HBO. You think he takes it, or more bums for less money?

[HeroBando]

That's just more double standard. Kovalev is supposed to be loyal to his broadcast partner, even when he doesn't have an exclusive contract, yet Stevenson is just supposed to spit in the face of his broadcast partners? And not even allow them to bid on the fight?

Kovalev and Stevenson are aligned with parties that do not get along and do not do business together.

Despite that fact, one side was willing to put the nonsense aside and allow the fight to happen and one side wasn't willing.

The side that was willing was Stevenson's side. The side that wasn't willing was Kovalev's side.

He ducked the fight. Move on with your life. He backed out of the purse bid. HBO offered him a bunch of money and he took it. Good for him.

Haymon offered Stevenson a bunch of money and he took it. Good for him.

The only problem here is the ridiculous double standard you're applying to them.

Superduck doesn't have an exclusive, his last fight was on Spike, doing awful ratings as usual. So I don't see an issue with him fighting on HBO. Besides the outsized risk, of course

[1hourRun]

Why? The rule should be a year, and not two years without fighting a top fighter. Basing everything off lineage is faulty thinking, you need some subjectivity.

It goes both ways as other posters have argued . The fact is to be the man you got to beat the man # 2. or # 5 will never equal # 1. lineal champ - I dont care if they stripped Adonis hes the man until proven otherwise.

[HeroBando]

It goes both ways as other posters have argued . The fact is to be the man you got to beat the man # 2. or # 5 will never equal # 1. lineal champ - I dont care if they stripped Adonis hes the man until proven otherwise.

I don't think many would agree with you on that. Most everyone has Kov as Peoples Champ. Stevenson is lineal but often that's not The Man, see MW division.

But bigger picture, sounds like for you The Man can stay fighting nothing but bums for years, no requirements? I'm glad Ring has a better policy

[1hourRun]

I don't think many would agree with you on that. Most everyone has Kov as Peoples Champ. Stevenson is lineal but often that's not The Man, see MW division.

But bigger picture, sounds like for you The Man can stay fighting nothing but bums for years, no requirements? I'm glad Ring has a better policy

Like I said It works both ways : I guess you consider Kovalev ' The Man ' but he can play this game also he can duck the lineal champ and keep fighting top contenders -- but until he or IF he fights 'THE MAN -- SUPERMAN ' he not the man in my eyes.