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  • Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
    I agree but you left out that fighting Ward at 168lbs, would've been the right move. Not a catch weight. I like GGG but I will not defend him calling out Ward at a catch weight. It just means he didn't want the fight. Ward would've beaten his ass anyway. He is too BIG for GGG. Canelo will fight GGG in due time. Let him enjoy the biggest win of his career for a minute. It would be ****** to jump to middleweight and fight GGG right away. He makes 155lbs comfortably right now. Why don't GGG grab Andy Lee's belt in the meantime and let the fight simmer. When they finally meet, don't be surprised if Canelo wins it.
    You're right about that first line. It was all smoke and mirrors, making Ward an offer he couldn't help but refuse. Canelo probably waits a year or two to fight ggg because right now its all risk and no reward (according to the recent ppv numbers). If that happens, ggg will be on the wrong side of 35 and Canelo would be as heavy as a full-fledged MW. He probably would get the W by then.

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    • 'My weight class' ????? The plot thickens.

      WTF is that???
      It's kinda sad really. GGG has been stalking champions who avoid him like the plague since he was in that crappy contract in Germany. Sturm gave up his belt to avoid GGG and it's just the same old story. You have to hand it to the guy and his team. Instead of getting gifted a chance he has just fought 3 or 4 times a year, mowing people down and collecting whatever titles he can to increase his leverage. It's taken time but it is coming to a head. He is going to get that WBC title. The only question is when. If he waits Canelo will get stripped. WBC can protect him but not forever. If he wants it fast it is going to have to be at Canelo's 'weight class' whatever that is. GGG is very likely to get the winner of Saunders Lee because the money he can pay them is a lot for them. So that will likely be another title. The public demand for the fight is going to get bigger and bigger. The Mexican's love Canelo but that fan base can switch on a dime if they feel the guy is ducking so he has to be very careful how he plays it. Cotto was at the end of his career and clearly didn't give a **** what anybody thought. But Canelo is at the beginning of his career and his fanbase is very important to hi. It's going to get very interesting.

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      • Originally posted by MC Hammer View Post
        In due time? He's almost 35. He has to get it now or it won't matter. Just becuase you're just finding out about the guy doesn't mean he's young. Canelo is way ahead with the youth factor and can wait him out, Cotto's not taking the fight and has no reason to, and no one is on the rise for MW division on HBO's roster so where does he go?

        Give me 5 fighters in the top 30 who are more known for who avoided them than who they fought. You can't. Fights that aren't fought don't add to legacy.

        Ironically the fair compromise he gave Ward is the same one Canelo is giving him. Maybe ggg should move on?
        Look, just because someone isn't making Floyd and Oscar money, doesn't mean he isn't getting paid. Secondly, GGG doesn't look bad for not fighting guys who avoided him. He can't make them fight. That adds to his greatness. Its not just one guy, or even two guys who refuse to fight him. Its been every champion in his divsion for the past 5 years. How does that make GGG look bad when these cats are making excuses? It doesn't. People are willing to fight Canelo and Cotto because they are very beatable. Dudes just aren't willing to take a GGG beatdown. Thats a bad mofo if you ask me.

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        • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          He has never faced a world-class opponent
          Oh look, the village idiot. You can't name one "world-class opponent" who made an offer to fight. Spare me your Ward bs because we all know Ward declined. Instead of offers from Quillin, or Jacobs, or Cotto, we get excuses. Sturm, excuses. Martinez, excuses.

          GGG beat them all and didn't have to land a single punch.

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          • Being "avoided" adds to your greatness?

            Yeah, tell that to The Bodysnatcher.

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            • The hurt in these comments somewhat resembles what happened in May.
              May beat your favorite fighter but he's still not given any respect. It was a robbery/Floyd is paying off the judges/ Floyd bought all the MGM wifi, etc.
              Then claim he can't be GGG.

              Nelo beat Cotto , it wasn't a robbery. Y'all saying its a draw or that Cotto won is worse than the last score card. Then its DLH paid off the commentators, DLH bought out the judges, DLH gave coke to everyone in the arena. Also no matter how many belts he has GGG hasn't fought any grade A competition, or even B+ competition. The hurt is like alcohol its coming through your pours.

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              • Originally posted by justblaze813 View Post
                The hurt in these comments somewhat resembles what happened in May.
                May beat your favorite fighter but he's still not given any respect. It was a robbery/Floyd is paying off the judges/ Floyd bought all the MGM wifi, etc.
                Then claim he can't be GGG.

                Nelo beat Cotto , it wasn't a robbery. Y'all saying its a draw or that Cotto won is worse than the last score card. Then its DLH paid off the commentators, DLH bought out the judges, DLH gave coke to everyone in the arena. Also no matter how many belts he has GGG hasn't fought any grade A competition, or even B+ competition. The hurt is like alcohol its coming through your pours.

                Dudes are shameless man. You'd think that it was a huge upset or like, Canelo wasn't the favorite going with they way they're reacting. But it's always excuses with the usual delusionals.

                Freddy, who they once despised for making Cotto come down in weight to face Pacquiao, sold them a dream: A rejuvenated, throwback, body punching, left-hooking Cotto.

                & last night was the rude awakening that the rest of us saw coming a mile away.
                Last edited by Agent Mulder; 11-22-2015, 04:35 PM.

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                • Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                  I agree but you left out that fighting Ward at 168lbs, would've been the right move. Not a catch weight. I like GGG but I will not defend him calling out Ward at a catch weight. It just means he didn't want the fight. Ward would've beaten his ass anyway. He is too BIG for GGG. Canelo will fight GGG in due time. Let him enjoy the biggest win of his career for a minute. It would be ****** to jump to middleweight and fight GGG right away. He makes 155lbs comfortably right now. Why don't GGG grab Andy Lee's belt in the meantime and let the fight simmer. When they finally meet, don't be surprised if Canelo wins it.
                  You mean if Canelo waits him out two or three years then maybe he has a shot.

                  Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
                  A good bit of hate for Canelo, which may or may not be justified depending on how you look at things, but the level of class from diva Cotto was proven low when he refused post-fight interviews.And by that I mean Adrian Bonehead low class. The scores were indeed off, it was maybe a 3-4 point win for Canelo, but still, Cotto needs to just do an easy farewell fight and leave the sport permanently. As for Canelo's future opponents, he should be allowed one fight before being required to go in there against GGG. And he is right, especially after last night's win, he is the more popular fighter with the fans, the bigger draw. If GGG fought in San Antonio or Mexico or L.A., he wouldn't be able to fill a stadium unless it was vs Canelo. But now, Canelo could do it even without GGG.
                  Cotto is a biiiitch for that.

                  Originally posted by MC Hammer View Post
                  In due time? He's almost 35. He has to get it now or it won't matter. Just becuase you're just finding out about the guy doesn't mean he's young. Canelo is way ahead with the youth factor and can wait him out, Cotto's not taking the fight and has no reason to, and no one is on the rise for MW division on HBO's roster so where does he go?

                  Give me 5 fighters in the top 30 who are more known for who avoided them than who they fought. You can't. Fights that aren't fought don't add to legacy.

                  Ironically the fair compromise he gave Ward is the same one Canelo is giving him. Maybe ggg should move on?
                  Why do you GGG haters always add years to his age.

                  Dude doesn't turn 34 until April, but you are saying he is almost 35. Give me a break.

                  GGG is already rich.

                  The man drives a truck he bought 8 years ago.

                  Money is great, and of course he wants big fights. But his family lives in a country where he is a superstar and the money he already made has him set for life, especially in his native country.

                  Pipe down, Canelo can't beat GGG if dude sprained his ankles.

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                  • Originally posted by petegrif View Post
                    WTF is that???
                    It's kinda sad really. GGG has been stalking champions who avoid him like the plague since he was in that crappy contract in Germany. Sturm gave up his belt to avoid GGG and it's just the same old story. You have to hand it to the guy and his team. Instead of getting gifted a chance he has just fought 3 or 4 times a year, mowing people down and collecting whatever titles he can to increase his leverage. It's taken time but it is coming to a head. He is going to get that WBC title. The only question is when. If he waits Canelo will get stripped. WBC can protect him but not forever. If he wants it fast it is going to have to be at Canelo's 'weight class' whatever that is. GGG is very likely to get the winner of Saunders Lee because the money he can pay them is a lot for them. So that will likely be another title. The public demand for the fight is going to get bigger and bigger. The Mexican's love Canelo but that fan base can switch on a dime if they feel the guy is ducking so he has to be very careful how he plays it. Cotto was at the end of his career and clearly didn't give a **** what anybody thought. But Canelo is at the beginning of his career and his fanbase is very important to hi. It's going to get very interesting.
                    ^^^ good post

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                    • Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
                      You mean if Canelo waits him out two or three years then maybe he has a shot.



                      Cotto is a biiiitch for that.



                      Why do you GGG haters always add years to his age.

                      Dude doesn't turn 34 until April, but you are saying he is almost 35. Give me a break.

                      GGG is already rich.

                      The man drives a truck he bought 8 years ago.

                      Money is great, and of course he wants big fights. But his family lives in a country where he is a superstar and the money he already made has him set for life, especially in his native country.

                      Pipe down, Canelo can't beat GGG if dude sprained his ankles.

                      also, he is now making $1.5 million or better for every fight from this point forward. That puts him in the top 20 earners in boxing.

                      Not too shabby for a poor kid from Kazahkstan.........

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