Who Won: Miguel Cotto vs Saul Alvarez?

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  • twrx
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    #71
    Originally posted by bleach
    it was actually canelo who said he was willing to fight floyd at a catchweight
    Either way catchweight losses dont count according to Floyd Jr.
    so canelo still undefeated

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #72
      It was close enough that a silt decision wouldn't have surprised me. But, I had Canelo winning by 3. Cotto was the better boxer but Canelo was just too big and strong.

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      • nivek535
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        #73
        ...... i like cotto a lot... and when i was watching, i was so biased to score for cotto, but that was easily canelo.....

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          #74
          Originally posted by FBLM
          LMFAO no one is saying robbery lmfao I bet you its only cotto fans.

          Canelo clearly is the better fighter out the two, cotto under freddie didnt become a monster he just got perfectly matched and use his A side status as leverage to win the past fights in negations, well today with all that A-side demands he still lost to the better man.
          Facts. Canelo!

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          • A-Wolf
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            #75
            Originally posted by Slip Stream
            I'm watching the fight in slo-mo, Cotto's actually winning now and landing at a much higher connect rate....
            lol that's because he did.

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            • Slip Stream
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              #76
              Originally posted by A-Wolf
              lol that's because he did.
              I'll be 100% honest, my heart wanted Cotto to do better than he did but Canelo was just too big and better overall. Cotto's got nothing to be ashamed of, I'm sure he made a career payday and I hope he can retire if he wants to, but nothing will change the fact that he lost convincingly....

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              • A-Wolf
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                #77
                Originally posted by Slip Stream
                I'll be 100% honest, my heart wanted Cotto to do better than he did but Canelo was just too big and better overall. Cotto's got nothing to be ashamed of, I'm sure he made a career payday and I hope he can retire if he wants to, but nothing will change the fact that he lost convincingly....
                Disagree. Watch it again in super slow mo if you have to.

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                • Slip Stream
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by A-Wolf
                  Disagree. Watch it again in super slow mo if you have to.
                  If that'll change the outcome. When do we get to the part where the only way Canelo beat Cotto is if he was on PEDs? Wait, where's Beiber?

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                  • A-Wolf
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Slip Stream
                    If that'll change the outcome. When do we get to the part where the only way Canelo beat Cotto is if he was on PEDs? Wait, where's Beiber?
                    Little help.. Jabs and body punches count as scoring punches.

                    No need to thank me. Happy to educate.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Freedom.
                      The 119-109 scorecard was absurdly wide, but Alvarez clearly won.

                      116-112 would have been an accurate scorecard, anything from 117-111 to 115-113 is reasonable.
                      What kind of logic is that? You can't say a guy won 115-113 and then be ok with a wide 117-111, because on the one hand you're saying rounds were close, on the other you're saying Canelo won the vast majority. You can't hang your hat on both sides lol

                      I had it 7-5 Cotto

                      Round 1 was Canelo on a slight edge
                      Rounds 2-6 were Cotto, superior work rate, landed more and defensively was better, can't see an argument for Canelo till the 6th
                      Rounds 7-9 were Canelo, he finally started connecting consistently with his biggest shots and really imposed him physically but...
                      Rounds 10-11 were Cotto again, superior movement, superior punch output and Canelo looked like he was desperately looking for a single big shot
                      12th was all Canelo, no arguments

                      I could, possibly see a couple rounds, i.e. rounds 6 and possibly one later round to Canelo, so 7-5 for him but the margins by the judges were just horrible. They never had any intention of scoring the fight (Cotto 109? lol).

                      It was a decent fight with terrible scoring...then again. I said before the fight, when bookies in Vegas make you a 2-1 favourite, then you know there's something going on.

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