Why dont WE the fans run boxing ?

[Furn]

I was thinking about how the belts mean nothing these days and people argue about things like the ring belt and linear championships meaning more and how its impossible to unify a division and keep the belts because of sanction fees and politics etc.

SO I came to the conclusion that the "champion" of each division these days is pretty much whoever the people in general thought was the best.

Of course with fighters fighting 2 twice or even once a year and the best in a divsion rarely meeting, its hard to know who the best really is.

SO here is what I propose.

The fans decide the rankings and who fights for the belts and if they dont fight who they are supposed to in time they get stripped etc just like say the WBC.

Now I know fans are bias but this wouldn't be an anonymous forum with multiple accounts and trolls it would be real names, pics and ID and say 1 year of membership and show you aren't a troll and know boxing before you can vote on the rankings. A little bit of bias wont hurt anyway, the popular fighters have always got title shots.

Ok but why would top professional boxers give a crap if we strip them of there titles or who we rank ?

Because we pay their purses, without us, there is no professional boxing, we just refuse to watch or support fighters that dont recognize our rankings.

Why couldn't this work ? It would take people more motivated and internet savy than me to start and run it and would take years to start to work but isn't it possible ?

No sanction fees, completely non for profit and we could have proper champions, rankings and title fights once again.

Or at least our kids could.

[Psylence83]

This is by far, one of the ****test threads i have ever read on here. You better be high......

[Furn]

This is by far, one of the ****test threads i have ever read on here. You better be high......

any reason why you think thats the case ?

[Bozbay]

I was thinking about how the belts mean nothing these days and people argue about things like the ring belt and linear championships meaning more and how its impossible to unify a division and keep the belts because of sanction fees and politics etc.

SO I came to the conclusion that the "champion" of each division these days is pretty much whoever the people in general thought was the best.

Of course with fighters fighting 2 twice or even once a year and the best in a divsion rarely meeting, its hard to know who the best really is.

SO here is what I propose.

The fans decide the rankings and who fights for the belts and if they dont fight who they are supposed to in time they get stripped etc just like say the WBC.

Now I know fans are bias but this wouldn't be an anonymous forum with multiple accounts and trolls it would be real names, pics and ID and say 1 year of membership and show you aren't a troll and know boxing before you can vote on the rankings. A little bit of bias wont hurt anyway, the popular fighters have always got title shots.

Ok but why would top professional boxers give a crap if we strip them of there titles or who we rank ?

Because we pay their purses, without us, there is no professional boxing, we just refuse to watch or support fighters that dont recognize our rankings.

Why couldn't this work ? It would take people more motivated and internet savy than me to start and run it and would take years to start to work but isn't it possible ?

No sanction fees, completely non for profit and we could have proper champions, rankings and title fights once again.

Or at least our kids could.

I get where you're coming from but it is literately impossible. Fans can never run boxing, or any sport. Only governing bodies and commissions can. There has to be a form of centralized control. In terms of the rankings, it is impossible for everyone to be happy. The only possible way to make rankings more fair is to have a system. E.g. Who ever you beat, you take their ranking. But even then, it's complicated.

The best way to improve boxing is to have ONE, centralized governing body. With ONE world championship belt per weight class, with ONE ranking system. Almost like the UFC.

But that will never happen because these organisations (WBC, WBO ect) are in existance to make money. Combining all of them into one would be too expensive and they'd make less.

[Furn]

I get where you're coming from but it is literately impossible. Fans can never run boxing, or any sport. Only governing bodies and commissions can. There has to be a form of centralized control. In terms of the rankings, it is impossible for everyone to be happy. The only possible way to make rankings more fair is to have a system. E.g. Who ever you beat, you take their ranking. But even then, it's complicated.

The best way to improve boxing is to have ONE, centralized governing body. With ONE world championship belt per weight class, with ONE ranking system. Almost like the UFC.

But that will never happen because these organisations (WBC, WBO ect) are in existance to make money. Combining all of them into one would be too expensive and they'd make less.

But the rankings would be voted on, every month or whatever members give their rankings for each division and you have some kind of points system where the average is taken.

Of course not everyone will be happy but only 35% of Americans voted for *****. Hes still president and people accept it becasue they had a chanc to vote.

The rankings cant be worse than any of current body's.

If you have one body why can't it be non profit and why can't it be run by real fans not crooks ? It would still be a centralised body but the rules ansd rankings are voted on by fans.

[Dr Rumack]

I honestly don't feel like I would need the rest of you.

[Bozbay]

But the rankings would be voted on, every month or whatever members give their rankings for each division and you have some kind of points system where the average is taken.

Of course not everyone will be happy but only 35% of Americans voted for *****. Hes still president and people accept it becasue they had a chanc to vote.

The rankings cant be worse than any of current body's.

If you have one body why can't it be non profit and why can't it be run by real fans not crooks ? It would still be a centralised body but the rules ansd rankings are voted on by fans.

Fans shouldn't be able to choose the rankings, we have subjective views. It becomes completely unfair. It would be like deciding the rankings in football or basketball. It would be a matter of popularity. There has to be a system based on actual wins or loses in the ring, not who fans think is better... that is subjective. In the end, we would ruin our own sport. No other sport's rankings are voted for by the fans for a reason. You just cant man

[Furn]

Fans shouldn't be able to choose the rankings, we have subjective views. It becomes completely unfair. It would be like deciding the rankings in football or basketball. It would be a matter of popularity. There has to be a system based on actual wins or loses in the ring, not who fans think is better... that is subjective. In the end, we would ruin our own sport. No other sport's rankings are voted for by the fans for a reason. You just cant man

Yeah but boxing doesnt have a fixture and a ladder so there has to be rankings and arent all the current rankings subjective ?

All-star teams are voted by the fans and they are pretty spot on arent they ?

Plus dont the most popular fighters make the most money now anyway ?

[HURTFEELINGS]

+ there are NO clear wins if it goes to the scorecards, because "fans" think judges and refs are paid off when their guy loses on the scorecards...Look at the whole pac debacle, if a guy refuses drug testing, his fans think its a good thing. He clearly got outclassed but his fans think if he gets outlanded 3 to 1 his one shot should've won him the round. I bring this fight up because it's the most recent BIG fight in the sport which showed alot about the fans. And remember "fans" wont even watch free boxing so that they can adequately judge which fighters deserve to be recognized or support them by watching their fights. THERE IS NO WAY FANS SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF **** WHEN IT COMES TO SPORT. But at least you tried to come up with something to help, thanks for the effort

[Jc8804]

I was thinking about how the belts mean nothing these days and people argue about things like the ring belt and linear championships meaning more and how its impossible to unify a division and keep the belts because of sanction fees and politics etc.

SO I came to the conclusion that the "champion" of each division these days is pretty much whoever the people in general thought was the best.

Of course with fighters fighting 2 twice or even once a year and the best in a divsion rarely meeting, its hard to know who the best really is.

SO here is what I propose.

The fans decide the rankings and who fights for the belts and if they dont fight who they are supposed to in time they get stripped etc just like say the WBC.

Now I know fans are bias but this wouldn't be an anonymous forum with multiple accounts and trolls it would be real names, pics and ID and say 1 year of membership and show you aren't a troll and know boxing before you can vote on the rankings. A little bit of bias wont hurt anyway, the popular fighters have always got title shots.

Ok but why would top professional boxers give a crap if we strip them of there titles or who we rank ?

Because we pay their purses, without us, there is no professional boxing, we just refuse to watch or support fighters that dont recognize our rankings.

Why couldn't this work ? It would take people more motivated and internet savy than me to start and run it and would take years to start to work but isn't it possible ?

No sanction fees, completely non for profit and we could have proper champions, rankings and title fights once again.

Or at least our kids could.

Because your contribution per fight is no more then 60$ furn.if that