Comments Thread For: Richard Schaefer is "Getting The Itch" To Come Back

[aboutfkntime]

I honestly didn't think about that, HBO have the 10 best P4P fighters apart from Rigo and Rigo is fighting on the Cotto-Canelo undercard.

That is mad, I think Haymon is doing interesting things but odd how he hasn't managed to (since Floyd retired) nick one of those fighters.

Who are they gonna fight ?

[Teetotaler]

Imagine the UFC without Dana White. Thats what the PBC is right now without a front man of some sort. What title or capacity that person actually takes idk tbqh, but their needs to be someone high up with this PBC entity who's not a hermit & can speak on PBC **** imo.

Maybe I'm wrong or maybe thats something thats way down the line when/if there is a PBC belt or w/e, but I think its something thats needed & would be welcomed by boxing media & fans alike just so PBC's moves don't seem as under the cover of darkness or random like they often do now.

I wanna hear a guy whos with PBC & who says Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter will be happening when weird media rumors pop off for days about a fight like that. Like when Khan said Manny was fighting him or w/e & Bob came out & shut that **** down the next day. PBC needs that. Maybe they just need to teach Haymon how to use twitter idk, but I think they want a president, CEO, head mfer of public discourse or something of PBC. If thats Schaefer or not idk, but its clearly a job no one is doing & seems a worthwhile propaganda arm for PBC if nothing else.

i don't know. Your making it seem so important but for a guy (al haymon) who's had everything figured out ahead of time, its hard to see him leaving out such an important figure for the PBC. Again don't they have several promoters for their different events? The promoters are usually the front man for the fight to hype it up and sell it to the public. Even then after the fight all the fighters say "id like to thank al haymon". Unless they stop saying that people are gonna actually want to know and see who Haymon is.

[QballLobo]

I would love to see Shaefer work with Mayweather. That would implode spectacularly within 2 years no doubt.
Will be interesting to see what impact he will have though. He was successful with GBP but he had Oscar De La Hoya's name to work with. People forget but Oscar was one of the biggest crossover (no pun intended) stars in the sport and everyone wanted to be associated with him. He wouldn't have that advantage with Mayweather as he isn't as marketable and not many people want to be in business with him due to his past. On the other hand Shaefer has more experience and I am sure his own relationships built himself.

[lopetego]

Obviously under Haymons skirt

[Eff Pandas]

ok well that makes sense,i thought that haymon would eventually want all of his major talent under one tree and one promotional outlet (mwyeather promotions) to keep all the mony in-house sorta since he and floyd are close. and then when he gets all the top guys, all the young up and comers see that all of the "money makers" in boxing are all under one promoter and that makes them want to join that same promoter too

If Haymon has them under his own umbrella (manager/adviser-wise) its the same difference, yet allows more freedom to move around among promoters who he probably has varying degrees of trust towards thus could burn the fighters via inactivity like Mikey Garcia, Andre Ward, Chavez Jr arguably got burned by their promoters.

For the most part the most talented, promising & biggest upside guys who are signed with promoters & who were unaffiliated with Haymon prior to this year are signing manager/adviser deals with Haymon. And obviously started with a nice base coming into this year.

[The Problem Child]

He will end up in the depths of hell after what he did to Oscar. If there is a God, this situation will resemble the one he had against Lucifer (right hand of God, wanted to be as powerful as him, tried to steal souls to his team, got exiled and now competes against his creator-Oscar). I doubt God has any pity or mercy on him, he will get denied at the gates of heaven. Watch.

[Eff Pandas]

see the thing is is that alot of fighters that are under the PBC brand are currently unpromoted,all the top guys like porter,garcia,thuryman,khan(i think), spence,broner and so on are not promoted by anyone,so if schaefer could get all these guys to join mayweather promotions it might make sense to become the president then,but otherwise if these guys want to remain unpromoted then theres no incentive for him to do so,and hes better off taking a PBC related role. but really its up to haymon,if haymon suggest to these young fighters to join M. promotions,they will do so

I suspect those fighters stay unpromoted. They don't need a long term agreement with anyone. He could do as you say, but I see more advantage with keeping them free & clear of long term deals right now.

as far as i know, PBC/haymon pretty munch only use dibella promotions as a "front" incase people start asking questions why he looks so much like a promoter rather then a manager.

False. Haymon has several main promoters that basically cover North America. TGB is actually the promotional group that has done the most shows & many of the bigger or notable shows (Thurman vs Guerrero, Porter vs Broner, Santa Cruz vs Mares)

TGB - West Coast primarily/Vegas
Mayweather - Vegas
GYM- Canada
Leija Bettah - Texas
DiBella - NY/New England region
Warriors - Florida/Midwest

He also has some sort of agreement with Eddie Hearn in the UK.

DiBella is just the best talker up til Floyd starts getting more involved is my assumption.

[STAX ON DECK]

Definitely not gonna happen.

One of the big advantages of PBC is they got 6 main promoters they use currently (TGB/DiBella/GYM/Mayweather/Warriors/Leija Bettah) along with some sort of agreement with Eddie Hearn that brings some of his UK fighters to the US (& I suspect US fighters to the UK at some point in the future when the UK PBC TV deal pops off) & all those promoters fighters are under the PBC fold by association with Haymon's main promoters. This basically increases the critical mass of talent that PBC needs & requires to be successful. They don't want less promoters with PBC, they won't more promoters with PBC cuz that means more fighters & more fighters is whats gonna give PBC the W.

ok well that makes sense,i thought that haymon would eventually want all of his major talent under one tree and one promotional outlet (mwyeather promotions) to keep all the mony in-house sorta since he and floyd are close. and then when he gets all the top guys, all the young up and comers see that all of the "money makers" in boxing are all under one promoter and that makes them want to join that same promoter too

[about.thousands]

Did he say GBP was a success overnight?

It's one thing if you haven't been following the sport that long. It's another to pretend you have.

lol these guys like to repeat the lie "Al Haymon stole De La Hoya's fighters because Scaefer didn't resign them". No, that's not what happened. They were re-signed, Haymon put a buy-out clause in their contract. That's why he was able to buy out LSC earlier this year as well as other GBP. Oscar's problem with Haymon is that once again he got out smarted.

According to De La Hoya, in the process of negotiating the settlement, Haymon communicated "affirmative statements" about working with Golden Boy to promote his fighters in the future. Yet according to a declaration of Al Haymon, 20 days later on Jan. 8, 2015, he "exercised a discretionary right" to end his business relationship with Golden Boy (and presumably buy out his fighters).

De La Hoya claims Golden Boy never would've made the agreement had they known Haymon would buy out his fighters so soon and, therefore, have been damaged in excess of $100 million.

The keyword there is "buy-out" meaning they were still signed to GBP with a buy-out clause. The same way Oscar and Floyd bought their way out from underneath Bob Arum.

[Eff Pandas]

as for my opinion,origianally i figured he would take over ellerbes spot at mayweather promotions and use it as the head promoter for PBC series(basically every single PBC event will be "promoted" by mayweather promotions by showcasing at least one mayweather promotons fighter on the card) and that way haymon doesnt look like a promoter anymore,since hes a manager only.

Definitely not gonna happen.

One of the big advantages of PBC is they got 6 main promoters they use currently (TGB/DiBella/GYM/Mayweather/Warriors/Leija Bettah) along with some sort of agreement with Eddie Hearn that brings some of his UK fighters to the US (& I suspect US fighters to the UK at some point in the future when the UK PBC TV deal pops off) & all those promoters fighters are under the PBC fold by association with Haymon's main promoters. This basically increases the critical mass of talent that PBC needs & requires to be successful. They don't want less promoters with PBC, they won't more promoters with PBC cuz that means more fighters & more fighters is whats gonna give PBC the W.