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Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View PostIts media hype man. Shes in a combat sport where anything can happen. Tyson losing Douglas, ALi losing to Spinks. These things can happen. Its not about being overrated. She was the champ who defended her title. I wanted Rousey too lose but i cant call her overrated. Those who trained with her including men are impressed with what she can do.
Not convinced that anyone else but Holm can beat Rousey, maybe.....
And also not convinced that Holm deals with the other top women in that division as easy as she dealt with Rousey.
It's about styles.
Dane White laid a huge fkn egg imho.
He was as inept as Arum when he selected Salido for Lomachenko.
The guy you don't match with a rookie pro, is a tough tricky vet who is right on top of his game..... Arum consigned Lomachenko to 12 rounds of hell.
And White did the same thing with Rousey.
Rousey's weakness was standup..... and yet not only did he put her in with a good standup fighter, he put her in with the best standup fighter in that division..... a boxing welterweight phenom who can KO suckers with a kick.
Terrible gameplan from White, he should have stuck with Tate as planned.
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Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View PostFair to say but no one knows why the fights did not happen either. We all know Ward has been very inactive and Triple G likes to be active so ill side with Triple G in not wanting to wait on Ward. Lara seems to talk a little too much, he really hurt himself with that Canelo performance. That was his chance, he showed more aggression in the build up of the fight then during it. Closest he ever got to Canelo were in the face offs. So whatever the reason maybe those fights happen one day. Cant so he said they said when we have no idea.
Ward
Lara
Cotto
Canelo
And Golovkin's resume is.....
Murray
Geale
So, comparing those lists objectively, it appears that Golovkin is avoiding world-class opponents.
If Golovkin CHOOSES not to fight another world-class opponent, will you still " side with Triple G " ?
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Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View PostFair to say but no one knows why the fights did not happen either. We all know Ward has been very inactive and Triple G likes to be active so ill side with Triple G in not wanting to wait on Ward. Lara seems to talk a little too much, he really hurt himself with that Canelo performance. That was his chance, he showed more aggression in the build up of the fight then during it. Closest he ever got to Canelo were in the face offs. So whatever the reason maybe those fights happen one day. Cant so he said they said when we have no idea.
ggg gets support to fight floyd at 154..
but wen lara ask for ggg..u sa he is not serious..others say he needs to get into the 160 rankings...its all not fair
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostI kind of agree with this post.
Not convinced that anyone else but Holm can beat Rousey, maybe.....
And also not convinced that Holm deals with the other top women in that division as easy as she dealt with Rousey.
It's about styles.
Dane White laid a huge fkn egg imho.
He was as inept as Arum when he selected Salido for Lomachenko.
The guy you don't match with a rookie pro, is a tough tricky vet who is right on top of his game..... Arum consigned Lomachenko to 12 rounds of hell.
And White did the same thing with Rousey.
Rousey's weakness was standup..... and yet not only did he put her in with a good standup fighter, he put her in with the best standup fighter in that division..... a boxing welterweight phenom who can KO suckers with a kick.
Terrible gameplan from White, he should have stuck with Tate as planned.
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Originally posted by tiliheels View Postu cant point to a style of a fighter and say "he cant have the fight"...im sorry this is more of the protection crap i was speaking of...if lara is so scary in the ring go kill him...simple
ggg gets support to fight floyd at 154..
but wen lara ask for ggg..u sa he is not serious..others say he needs to get into the 160 rankings...its all not fair
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostRight, so IF Golovkin refuses to give Cotto/Canelo a reasonable catchweight, the list of fighters that he COULD have fought, but chose not to, is.....
Ward
Lara
Cotto
Canelo
And Golovkin's resume is.....
Murray
Geale
So, comparing those lists objectively, it appears that Golovkin is avoiding world-class opponents.
If Golovkin CHOOSES not to fight another world-class opponent, will you still " side with Triple G " ?
Lara who knows, wouldnt mind seeing the fight. On paper it would look good for Triple G but not what most critics will look at. Look how popular Canelo is but the Lara fight is never talked about. Lara is a good boxer but he himself could fight better opponents himself. Hes been pretty dormant lately.
Ward would make Triple G then man in the boxing circle. Outside of the circle or Oakland know Ward for as an announcer. All of us would definitely say wow if he beat Ward cause we know what Ward is.
But like i say, i am not in the meetings i dont know what goes on. For what crazy reasons the fights are not made. Look at the first time around with Cotto/Canelo. One of the biggest issues was the type of beer. I mean come on.
So for me Triple G at least seems motivated to take on the best where the others hesitate and want to take their time.
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Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View PostWell for Cotto/Canelo i would not agree with a catchweight. I am strongly against them unless the weight is too far between. So if the winner of Cotto vs Canelo refuses to fight or vacates etc Triple G wins in the end. Each fighter avoided him Triple G will most likely go on to win the belt and make everyone in the division come to him.
Lara who knows, wouldnt mind seeing the fight. On paper it would look good for Triple G but not what most critics will look at. Look how popular Canelo is but the Lara fight is never talked about. Lara is a good boxer but he himself could fight better opponents himself. Hes been pretty dormant lately.
Ward would make Triple G then man in the boxing circle. Outside of the circle or Oakland know Ward for as an announcer. All of us would definitely say wow if he beat Ward cause we know what Ward is.
But like i say, i am not in the meetings i dont know what goes on. For what crazy reasons the fights are not made. Look at the first time around with Cotto/Canelo. One of the biggest issues was the type of beer. I mean come on.
So for me Triple G at least seems motivated to take on the best where the others hesitate and want to take their time.
haha yea
I agree with you, I think catchweights should be completely abolished.
We have 17 divisions now, so catchweights are completely unnecessary.
If two guys are that far apart in weight that a catchweight is required, then the bout is nothing more than an exhibition match anyways.
Maybe there is a place for catchweights in true exhibition matchups..... with un-ranked, or older fighters..... maybe.
I don't think I have ever supported a catchweight before now, ever.
But I feel completely different in this case..... Golovkin is a catchweight abuser himself, and he has often said that he can make 154.
So I think 156/157 is more than fair.
To me, the issue is his complete refusal to negotiate, completely contradicting that "anyone from 154-168" bull****..... it just seems to me that he would prefer to take the easy way out, killing the fight in the process.
" Steel-Man " is starting to look more like " Tin-Man ".
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Posthaha yea
I agree with you, I think catchweights should be completely abolished.
We have 17 divisions now, so catchweights are completely unnecessary.
If two guys are that far apart in weight that a catchweight is required, then the bout is nothing more than an exhibition match anyways.
Maybe there is a place for catchweights in true exhibition matchups..... with un-ranked, or older fighters..... maybe.
I don't think I have ever supported a catchweight before now, ever.
But I feel completely different in this case..... Golovkin is a catchweight abuser himself, and he has often said that he can make 154.
So I think 156/157 is more than fair.
To me, the issue is his complete refusal to negotiate, completely contradicting that "anyone from 154-168" bull****..... it just seems to me that he would prefer to take the easy way out, killing the fight in the process.
" Steel-Man " is starting to look more like " Tin-Man ".
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Originally posted by Strive 4 Truth View PostI really wonder if he could make 154, and be healthy, doubt it?
A team of experienced professionals who happen to be dedicated to Canelo's development and success say that he will be...... but let's not rely on them either..... Detective Miguel Cotto is about to investigate, and he will let us know real soon
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