legend Roy Jones speaks on how america treats black boxers and the Ward vs GGG beef

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  • Butt stuff
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    #111
    Skin colour doesn't get endorsements. KO's do. Mike was a bad mf and he still got them. There was a report somewhere that he made around 35m in endorsements.







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    • JStill Unbiased
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      #112
      "But black athlete's get all the endorsements", "Look at Michael Jordan"

      as soon as I read I comment like that I automatically ignore it. America loves to get someone black to sing, dance or rap their product into the hands of the masses. Black people are entertaining and are proven product pushers. The issue comes into play when we talk ab out how these athletes/entertainers are treated in the corporate world. We all recognize that Serena is the best in women's tennis, but Sherapova maes more money in endorsements. Why spend so much time trying to ignore this fact as opposed to addressing it? Michael Vick was ripped to pieces, lost his endorsements, was kicked out of the NFL and thrown in jail for dog fighting. As yourself, what happened to his teammate Big Ben? Don't ignore it, address it. Hope Solo is a media darling and Chris Brown is still apologizing for beating up his girlfriend when he was 18 years old. Come on guy's, we're not making this shit up.

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      • JStill Unbiased
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        #113
        Originally posted by CLUNG3-TANK
        Skin colour doesn't get endorsements. KO's do. Mike was a bad mf and he still got them. There was a report somewhere that he made around 35m in endorsements.







        And when Mike was accused, he lost all of his endorsements. Understandable, blue chip companies don't need bad press. But why is it that black athletes are dropped so quickly while white athletes are given the privelage of pleading their case or not being dropped by a team, company at all?

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        • SnakeVen0m
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          #114
          Originally posted by JStill Unbiased
          "But black athlete's get all the endorsements", "Look at Michael Jordan"

          as soon as I read I comment like that I automatically ignore it. America loves to get someone black to sing, dance or rap their product into the hands of the masses. Black people are entertaining and are proven product pushers. The issue comes into play when we talk ab out how these athletes/entertainers are treated in the corporate world. We all recognize that Serena is the best in women's tennis, but Sherapova maes more money in endorsements. Why spend so much time trying to ignore this fact as opposed to addressing it? Michael Vick was ripped to pieces, lost his endorsements, was kicked out of the NFL and thrown in jail for dog fighting. As yourself, what happened to his teammate Big Ben? Don't ignore it, address it. Hope Solo is a media darling and Chris Brown is still apologizing for beating up his girlfriend when he was 18 years old. Come on guy's, we're not making this shit up.
          Ah, of course, how could I judge Chris for that? I remember being young and beating the shit out of my girlfriends too.

          Lord forbid a black athlete gets 50 million instead of 100 million in endorsements. When I read about that stuff, I can't sleep for weeks thinking about the inequality. Drives me nuts.

          You really discredits black people's talent's when you say things like " America loves to get someone black to sing, dance or rap their product into the hands of the masses." Like their talents didn't earn it, just some white man gave it to them? Quit playing the victim and trying to find inequality where there is none.

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          • JStill Unbiased
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            #115
            another thing I noticed which I find quite hilarious; why is it that posters on NSB are so quick to dissasociate GGG from being white? lol I understand his Euroasian origins but the kid is clearly white. Correct me If i'm wrong becuase I could be but isn't his father White and mother Asian? If that's the case, it loks as if his father had the more dominant genes and he turned out white lol, why are posters championing him not being reffered to as white?

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            • -Kev-
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              #116
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              ^^^^this...that's why some of the posts on here are ******....I think a fighter who was black, and the best of his generation would know about how black fighters are treated


              Jones may be the GOAT and guys like DLH, Hamed, Chavez got more shine and he was better fighters than them by a country mile
              It's a tricky, sensitive subject that needs good wording. RJ pulled it off, he was very good with the wording and respect. Give the subject to Broner, Campbell or Devon Alexander and they will sound like jerks and get backlash. But they ultimately want to say the same thing, they just don't know how to say it in a professional way like Roy did. Probably his HBO commentating job helps him express himself more professionaly. He has to be careful with what he says on air so that probably made him a better talker now. He has to find a way to say what he feels in a civilized manner.

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                #117
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                It's a tricky, sensitive subject that needs good wording. RJ pulled it off, he was very good with the wording and respect. Give the subject to Broner, Campbell or Devon Alexander and they will sound like jerks and get backlash. But they ultimately want to say the same thing, they just don't know how to say it in a professional way like Roy did. Probably his HBO commentating job helps him express himself more professionaly. He has to be careful with what he says on air so that probably made him a better talker now. He has to find a way to say what he feels in a civilized manner.
                its tricky, but look at the person speaking on the topic...I think the former p4p king of boxing, future hall of famer and one of the most known athletes of his generation would know about how it feels a lil more than people on a boxing forum who never dealt with what he has

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                • VG_Addict
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by stuff jones
                  A lot of just brain dead idiocy on this thread.

                  Floyd is unmarketable. He's a serial woman abuser and just not a very likable or charismatic person.

                  Jordan made more money in endorsements than any other athlete. Shaq made money. LBJ makes money.

                  Its not about race, its about being marketable.
                  You're an idiot. Floyd is marketable. How else do you explain him being the highest-paid athlete, and breaking PPV buys despite his less than exciting style?

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                  • JStill Unbiased
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by SnakeVen0m
                    Ah, of course, how could I judge Chris for that? I remember being young and beating the shit out of my girlfriends too.

                    Lord forbid a black athlete gets 50 million instead of 100 million in endorsements. When I read about that stuff, I can't sleep for weeks thinking about the inequality. Drives me nuts.

                    You really discredits black people's talent's when you say things like " America loves to get someone black to sing, dance or rap their product into the hands of the masses." Like their talents didn't earn it, just some white man gave it to them? Quit playing the victim and trying to find inequality where there is none.
                    It isn't odd that you don't find any relation between your situation and Chris Brown's but it is odd that America is to this day is calling an 18 year old a monster for getting in a fight with his girlfriend.

                    And sure you can play the "you're really discrediting black people talents" game which is age old american deflection but It won't work with me becuase I've seen this game for years and years and years.

                    You saying "lord forbid a black athlete gets 50 mill and not 100 mill in endorsments" sounds like "you people should be happy with what they give you" and I'm sure you don't want to come off like that lol

                    Listen if you don't want to admit that there's an inequality in the branding and marketing of black athletes/entertainers in comparsion to whites, that's on you. You're choosing to turn a blind eye to the facts and the conversation can't move forward.

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                    • SnakeVen0m
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by JStill Unbiased
                      It isn't odd that you don't find any relation between your situation and Chris Brown's but it is odd that America is to this day is calling an 18 year old a monster for getting in a fight with his girlfriend.

                      And sure you can play the "you're really discrediting black people talents" game which is age old american deflection but It won't work with me becuase I've seen this game for years and years and years.

                      You saying "lord forbid a black athlete gets 50 mill and not 100 mill in endorsments" sounds like "you people should be happy with what they give you" and I'm sure you don't want to come off like that lol

                      Listen if you don't want to admit that there's an inequality in the branding and marketing of black athletes/entertainers in comparsion to whites, that's on you. You're choosing to turn a blind eye to the facts and the conversation can't move forward.
                      It's not a game it's plain and simple. No illuminati conspiracy theory. Black people basically rule professional sports. Endorsements don't mean shit to me when these athletes are already getting paid millions upon millions, I don't see a reason to fight for them.

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