Comments Thread For: Freddie Roach Explains Why Cotto Will Knock Out Canelo

[bigjer88]

the only problem was that WBC started using VADA for his championship fights as a way of "cleaning the sport", canelo accepted VADA but then Cotto-RN didnt for whatever reason, i cant say cotto is guilty for that, it just looks a little shady the way it happened... no reason to use this as an excuse either, you havent heard canelos team complain about it, they accepted Usada as a request from RocNation and moved on... no excuses...

Cotto-RN? As in Registered Nurse? If so, that's funny.

[icha]

Cotto-RN? As in Registered Nurse? If so, that's funny.

Cotto-RocNation...

[Lunchbucket]

Hey Freddie, didn't you also predict that Manny was going to knock Floyd out. You're like a broken record.

[Bardock]

Yes - with all the heightened attention on PEDs in boxing...and the allegations against fighers in Roach's stable, Cotto picked this point in his career to start taking PEDs. Makes a lot of sense.

LOL yeah, its easier to believe Cotto is "refreshed" because he has a new coach. How many fighters look better than ever at the end of their careers and have had as many wars as Cotto?

[Bardock]

It hasn't improved, but he is sitting on his punches more. Serg was shot delvin is c class and degale was drained. He's not knocking canelo out

I know obviously. I just think its funny how blatantly obvious it is and nobody gives a fck

[bigjer88]

LOL yeah, its easier to believe Cotto is "refreshed" because he has a new coach. How many fighters look better than ever at the end of their careers and have had as many wars as Cotto?

Or, as others have pointed out, maybe his power is not really different. Perhaps he's just sitting down on his punches a bit more than he was doing between 2009-12 (i.e, after Margarito I through Trout). For a devoted student of the sport like Cotto -- a person who is extremely receptive to Roach's guidance -- little adjustments can make a big difference.

Cotto, like Canelo, is an elite athlete. To denigrate his achievements by casually suggesting PED abuse -- without any direct or circumstantial evidence to support the claim -- is disrepectful and cheap.

[Bardock]

Or, as others have pointed out, maybe his power is not really different. Perhaps he's just sitting down on his punches a bit more than he was doing between 2009-12 (i.e, after Margarito I through Trout). For a devoted student of the sport like Cotto -- a person who is extremely receptive to Roach's guidance -- little adjustments can make a big difference.

Cotto, like Canelo, is an elite athlete. To denigrate his achievements by casually suggesting PED abuse -- without any direct or circumstantial evidence to support the claim -- is disrepectful and cheap.

Well he refused advanced drug testing for his upcoming fight. Why would he? Whats the trouble? If fighters refuse to participate in drug testing it only means they have something to hide. You can't just sweep it under the rug, as much as Cotto fans want to. It is a fact Cotto refused drug testing for the biggest fight of his later career.

[bigjer88]

Well he refused advanced drug testing for his upcoming fight. Why would he? Whats the trouble? If fighters refuse to participate in drug testing it only means they have something to hide. You can't just sweep it under the rug, as much as Cotto fans want to. It is a fact Cotto refused drug testing for the biggest fight of his later career.

Refused all drug testing or just VADA testing? I thought they agreed to USADA testing.

I'm not suggesting that anyone sweep anything under the rug. But it's cheap when fans accuse elite athletes of PEDs armed with little more than a strong opinion to support the claim.

[Bardock]

Refused all drug testing or just VADA testing? I thought they agreed to USADA testing.

I'm not suggesting that anyone sweep anything under the rug. But it's cheap when fans accuse elite athletes of PEDs armed with little more than a strong opinion to support the claim.

As far as I know there was no drug testing, the WBC have made new rules for championship fights where there has to be VADA testing. The rules don't go into effect until February. VADA reached out to the WBC and team Cotto for drug testing and he refused. Where theres smoke theres fire right?

@AFE311 @Gabriel_Montoya Nit saying Cotto alone - but yeah it's jus side, Roc Nation, that rejected VADA. Canelo/GBP all for VADA testing

— Douglass Fischer (@dougiefischer) November 4, 2015

[bigjer88]

[QUOTE=Bardock;16224006]As far as I know there was no drug testing, the WBC have made new rules for championship fights where there has to be VADA testing. The rules don't go into effect until February. VADA reached out to the WBC and team Cotto for drug testing and he refused. Where theres smoke theres fire right?

Pretty sure they agreed to USADA testing...which, as I've already said and is well documented, is far less intrusive than VADA testing. In any event, it's important to have all the facts before making otherwise slanderous allegations. Sometimes, where there is smoke, there is just some idle kid playing with matches.