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  • megas30
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    #51
    Originally posted by SniXSniPe
    Their resume and skill level is unfairly influenced by a vast height and weight advantage over their opponents. Not very pound for pound friendly when you weigh 250 pounds and your opponent weighs between 200-225. Or, when you stand 6 inches+ taller than your opponent.




    Yeah, lets act like nobody brings up amateur career when Lomachenko or Rigondeaux are named dropped.
    In the end, you will be judge of their resume and skill in relation to other fighters. Whether they make your p4p list is up to you. I am just saying, based on my premise of traversing weight classes, they should be not be excluded.

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    • ukbox
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      #52
      Originally posted by megas30
      Hahaha...."white" and native American country. This is laughable. Only something that can come from a white supremacist. How is this co-ownership came about again? Was it given to you by the natives? If by landing and killing off the natives makes you co-owner, then by the same token, blacks are part owners, because, as you know, Africans were traveling and trading here before Columbus. Keep up with history. I am still laughing, though...lol.
      Fella you've already proved your IQ is in single digits. Im amazed u know how to communicate at all. White supremist ffs away & play the victim elsewhere.
      I thought u was a proud black man. You come across like a wee guy.
      American was the land of the natives until the cowboys & their guns ya daftie. Cowboys were white.
      Like I said nothing stopping u heading over to Africa living out your life in happiness. Instead u walking about with a chip on your shoulder feeling u owed something for being a victim. Time to grow up wee man

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        #53
        Originally posted by SniXSniPe
        Their resume and skill level is unfairly influenced by a vast height and weight advantage over their opponents. Not very pound for pound friendly when you weigh 250 pounds and your opponent weighs between 200-225. Or, when you stand 6 inches+ taller than your opponent.




        Yeah, lets act like nobody brings up amateur career when Lomachenko or Rigondeaux are named dropped.
        Rigondeaux has actually displayed his skills and pretty much embarrassed another P4P fighter in Donaire so that's why most people rank him highly. I don't have Lomachenko in my top 10 yet but the guy won a world title in his 3rd fight and beat a very talented fighter in Russell Jr with relative ease. That's a special feat.

        Golovkin has beaten up a bunch of overmatched opponents. It's not really that impressive to me.

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        • BoxingIsGreat
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          #54
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          Ward going to 175 has nothing to do with it. GGG beats ANYONE from 154-168, including Ward.

          The fact that the fight couldnt be made at the moment doesnt change the fact that if GGG and Ward ever meet (after Wards "tune-up tour 2015-2016" of course), GGG puts Ward on the floor, regardless of what weight they fight at.
          How is this a fact? Have they fought before? How do you know Ward wouldn't beat his ass? I don't think you are using the word "fact" correctly in this case. Although I'm not a Ward fan, it is easy to see that Ward is levels above this hypejob.

          I haven't seen anything special about this guy. Beating down C class fighters doesn't do it for rational boxing fans. I would say he doesn't even belong on the top 10.

          Holyfield, on the other hand, harbors a lot of self-hate.

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            #55
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
            According to former undisputed cruiserweight and heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield, IBO/WBA/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin is the best pound for pound fighter in the sport.

            Floyd Mayweather Jr. (49-0, 26KOs) held the top pound for pound position for several years. He retired on September 12th after winning a twelve round decision over Andre Berto.
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            • comanick
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              #56
              Originally posted by SniXSniPe
              Lucian Bute didn't have anywhere near the amateur resume that Golovkin did.

              Lucian Bute, did he fight as many top 10 rated fighters in his division as Golovkin?

              also... Lucian Bute also got KTFO by Golovkin in amateurs. Bute is a great fighter. He's not the best in his division obviously, but he is still good. Are you trying to imply that he isn't good because he lost to Froch, and lost to Pascal outside of his weight class?
              Im implying that by the "eye test" bute looked to be a top p4p while fighting opposition on the same level ggg is fighting right now. Reality is when he actually fought P4P fighters he got beat..badly. For all we know the same can happen to GGG when he actually fights a top p4p fighter. He just hasnt shown enough to be ranked #1 p4p. Number 1 at mw? Sure.

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                #57
                Originally posted by comanick
                Im implying that by the "eye test" bute looked to be a top p4p while fighting opposition on the same level ggg is fighting right now. Reality is when he actually fought P4P fighters he got beat..badly. For all we know the same can happen to GGG when he actually fights a top p4p fighter. He just hasnt shown enough to be ranked #1 p4p. Number 1 at mw? Sure.
                I'll agree that the #1 P4P is a huge stretch. Right now I honestly don't feel like anyone deserves it too much.

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                • megas30
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ukbox
                  Fella you've already proved your IQ is in single digits. Im amazed u know how to communicate at all. White supremist ffs away & play the victim elsewhere.
                  I thought u was a proud black man. You come across like a wee guy.
                  American was the land of the natives until the cowboys & their guns ya daftie. Cowboys were white.
                  Like I said nothing stopping u heading over to Africa living out your life in happiness. Instead u walking about with a chip on your shoulder feeling u owed something for being a victim. Time to grow up wee man
                  Oh, the ad hominem and emotional appeal are coming. Of course, I am proud black man, and that's why I won't let redneck like you come and spill your ignorant nonsense about black people. Sure...victim? Who cries like you people? I can't turn on the tv or pick up the paper without someone of your ilks beotching about something, even if it is a raccoon that gets run over by a car.

                  Cowboy and Indians? I see where your knowledge comes from. Maybe you need to turn off the idiot box and pick up a book or something. If you need help, it is big shiny knob, or if you are fortunate to have a remote, it maybe the red button at the top.

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                  • nielon
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                    #59
                    There are many fighters out there who say "ok lets do it" when any fight is presented and are not "afraid" of anyone..... That doesnt make them P4P worthy.... TripleGay has said yes to many bums but when Ward knocked on the door he didnt say "ok lets do it".... Pound 4 Pound to a fighter that has been fighting bums in the SAME division for 9 years and refuses to challenge better fighters in higher weight divisions is not worthy of P4P recognition.


                    TripleGay has not earned his status YET. All hype and conspiracies lolol

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                    • ukbox
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by megas30
                      Oh, the ad hominem and emotional appeal are coming. Of course, I am proud black man, and that's why I won't let redneck like you come and spill your ignorant nonsense about black people. Sure...victim? Who cries like you people? I can't turn on the tv or pick up the paper without someone of your ilks beotching about something, even if it is a raccoon that gets run over by a car.

                      Cowboy and Indians? I see where your knowledge comes from. Maybe you need to turn off the idiot box and pick up a book or something. If you need help, it is big shiny knob, or if you are fortunate to have a remote, it maybe the red button at the top.
                      You talking about education haha you don't even have common sense, guess its not that common in your house.
                      I'm European, I've native American in my family history. You hear me playing the victim or just getting on with it.
                      FFS u that daft u quoted me enough UK should have given u a clue ya fanny. & again with your "you people" victim
                      I'll play along, which of these African traders were responsible for the industrial revolution in YOUR country?
                      Answers on a postcard son. You know how to work a pencil don't ya?

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