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  • Myth Buster: Timothy Bradley Needs PBC

    Reality: PBC needs Tim Bradley. I see many saying that Bradley needs PBC because they have the depth to keep him active. This is totally false and here is why:

    1. Bradley is the highest paid American boxer in the sport today. He made $4 million this year which is what you get facing Floyd or Pac. He has a minimum guarantee of $2 million per fight.

    2. Bradley is in line for fights vs the 2 biggest cash cows in the sport: Pac and Canelo.

    3. Bradley can establish a lineage by beating Pac or Brook (if Pac goes to 140 for TC). Furthermore, Khan is now a viable option. The top 2 fighters in the division are makeable fights (Brook and Pac)

    4. PBCs welterweights aren't even fighting each other and cannot establish a lineage without Tim Bradley. Porter has already lost to Brook, Thurman has beaten nobody and Garcia is still adjusting to the new division.

    From every angle, PBC does nothing for Tim Bradley. Financially or legacy wise.

  • #2
    Could have just responded to the one or two guys that think otherwise.

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    • #3
      Yeah I saw some guy posting yesterday about how Bradley needs to leave Arum and go to Haymon to make big money

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      • #4
        I don't see Bradley fighting Canelo nor Pacquiao but hey stranger things have happened.

        This really isn't about who needs who though. It's about us fans needing these juvenile cold wars between promoters to be thrown aside so we can see the best fights the sport has to offer.

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        • #5
          Idk if we see Pac-Bradley 3. Crawford might get it if Bob has his way. If not him, it'll be Khan. Don't think a fight with Canelo goes down either. Tim should try to fight Brook.

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          • #6
            Is anyone pushing this stance very hard, I mean anyone who's not just trolling with you?

            There is no question Tim has a cherry deal with TR/HBO. That alone makes HBO superior to PBC for Tim.

            And there is no doubt for me that either Manny or Canelo would be the best paying next fights Tim could get.

            I would suggest after some of this stuff runs its course & maybe Tim's TR's deal is up (no clue how long he's signed for, but lets assume another year or two) it could be worthwhile to strongly re-access his future with TR.

            I think TR's 147lb dominance is near its end & Tim is gonna be left with Crawford (if they'd even fight each other, Crawford says no, my guess is money would get them both to say yes) & mostly subpar matchups from there. PBC's 147lbers are largely still coming into their own (think most of the most promising top 5-6 are all 28yrs or under). In another year or two odds are the best 147lber will be a PBC guy just cuz iron sharpens iron & PBC, despite some claims saying otherwise, are matching up their top guys its just a slower process than people want it to be so someone will surely have ran the gauntlet & taken the #1 spot by then. So in a couple years PBC might look a lil sexier to Tim than it does today.
            Last edited by Eff Pandas; 11-09-2015, 09:09 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
              Yeah I saw some guy posting yesterday about how Bradley needs to leave Arum and go to Haymon to make big money
              They were pushing this hard on The Boxing Voice too. That Top Rank has nothing for Bradley. Bradley has maybe 1-2 years left as a top welterweight. Every relevant fight at this stage in his career can be made: Brook, Khan and a third fight with Pacquiao. Between those 3 fights and his mandatories he will be busy with 2 fights/yr. for the last few years of his prime.

              The only fights he won't get are Thurman, Porter and Garcia, but those guys are all mid-level contenders right now that need to fight each other.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Is anyone pushing this stance very hard, I mean anyone who's not just trolling with you?

                There is no question Tim has a cherry deal with TR/HBO. That alone makes HBO superior to PBC for Tim.

                And there is no doubt for me that either Manny or Canelo would be the best paying next fights Tim could get.

                I would suggest after some of this stuff runs its course & maybe Tim's TR's deal is up (no clue how long he's signed for, but lets assume another year or two) it could be worthwhile to strongly re-access his future with TR.

                I think TR's 147lb dominance is near its end & Tim is gonna be left with Crawford (if they'd even fight each other, Crawford says no, my guess is money would get them both to say yes) & mostly subpar matchups from there. PBC's 147lbers are largely still coming into their own (think most of the most promising top 5-6 are all 28yrs or under). In another year or two odds are the best 147lber will be a PBC guy just cuz iron sharpens iron & PBC, despite some claims saying otherwise, are matching up their top guys its just a slower process than people want it to be so someone will surely have ran the gauntlet & taken the #1 spot by then. So in a couple years PBC might look a lil sexier to Tim than it does today.
                By the time his deal is up he will be past prime and just a name. He needs the big fights RIGHT NOW and the 4 biggest fights out there for him: Brook, Khan, Pac and Canelo are all makeable.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  Is anyone pushing this stance very hard, I mean anyone who's not just trolling with you?

                  There is no question Tim has a cherry deal with TR/HBO. That alone makes HBO superior to PBC for Tim.

                  And there is no doubt for me that either Manny or Canelo would be the best paying next fights Tim could get.

                  I would suggest after some of this stuff runs its course & maybe Tim's TR's deal is up (no clue how long he's signed for, but lets assume another year or two) it could be worthwhile to strongly re-access his future with TR.

                  I think TR's 147lb dominance is near its end & Tim is gonna be left with Crawford (if they'd even fight each other, Crawford says no, my guess is money would get them both to say yes) & mostly subpar matchups from there. PBC's 147lbers are largely still coming into their own (think most of the most promising top 5-6 are all 28yrs or under). In another year or two odds are the best 147lber will be a PBC guy just cuz iron sharpens iron & PBC, despite some claims saying otherwise, are matching up their top guys its just a slower process than people want it to be so someone will surely have ran the gauntlet & taken the #1 spot by then. So in a couple years PBC might look a lil sexier to Tim than it does today.
                  Your post has two assumptions that we don't know if they will be true, #1 will PBC be around in 2 years and #2 will Bradley want to fight on after this contract. I think he might be done in 2017.

                  The other issue is for all of the top 147-154 lb talent PBC has, we still almost never get to see them in the ring together. Haymon is having a tough time convincing them to face each other.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PBP. View Post
                    They were pushing this hard on The Boxing Voice too.
                    Thats your first problem right there lol. I like listening to the TBV myself from time to time, but Ness & some of the regs say some of the dumbest **** anyone says about boxing that aren't casual fans or forum trolls. Ness didn't even know who Mark Breland was awhile back & went on like a 22 minute tirade about why no one should know who Mark Breland is/was. Basically its not the most knowledgeable boxing people in the business.

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