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  • ruedboy
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    #11
    Good post. But I think a judge can score a round 10-10.
    That being said judging in boxing is a bad joke.
    Seems like a knockout punch is the only thing fair in the whole sport.

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    • ukbox
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      #12
      On the day weigh ins were abandoned due to medical advice & in an attempt to make the sport safer.
      You always had guys cutting weight but the lack of recovery time with same day weigh ins would see the fighter competing in a dehydrated state.
      I feel a safer approach is that fighters should be forced when active to maintain a certain weight & placed in whichever weight class they fall into. It would even the playing field & remove some of this weight play

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      • OnePunch
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        #13
        Originally posted by ukbox
        On the day weigh ins were abandoned due to medical advice & in an attempt to make the sport safer.
        You always had guys cutting weight but the lack of recovery time with same day weigh ins would see the fighter competing in a dehydrated state.
        I feel a safer approach is that fighters should be forced when active to maintain a certain weight & placed in whichever weight class they fall into. It would even the playing field & remove some of this weight play
        That was Flip Homansky's theory, and the reason why he was the driving force behind the change.

        The problem with his position though is that he changed the system to accommodate those who were trying to gain an advantage, at the expense of those who are fighting in their proper division. Any medical or physical problems due to massive weight cutting is a self-inflicted condition, and I have no sympathy for them.

        But dont look for any promoters or other power players to support changing it. They like having the extra day of promotion and press releases that the weigh in provides.

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        • ukbox
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          #14
          I don't watch the sport or train in it to see people getting killed. It's a risk of the sport but as a fan I'm happy with a compromise to lessen the chance of witnessing people killed in the ring.
          This isn't aimed at you, there's plenty of sickos out there, whether it's Arabs filling stadiums to see someone stoned to death or weirdos creating a market for gore videos & beheading. But these ***wits would have to be off the scale if the tables were turned & it was their loved ones in the videos with Joe nobody's watching their loved ones for kicks.
          I feel the active weight class is the better move..say 160 fighter can't weigh in over 168 at any time unless retired or injured. If not retired : carrying no injury they can't go over 168 & then start their cut through training. You'd more likely see fighters gaining less post weigh in & competing 8lbs heavier on fight night as their body would gave been accustomed to the weight.
          147 fighter..155 walking round weght, 154 fighter...162 walking round weight.
          It would mean more checks on pro fighter but treated like testing & unannounced it would force fighters to stay on weight or move up.
          Costs wouldnt be that of ped testing as it would be a case of standing on a calibrated scale.
          It's wishful thinking but I think it would work

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          • Caught Square
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            #15
            It's a double edged sword. Getting rid of the junior and super divisions would be a better idea imo. I just can't see the likes of Canelo, Andrade as 154 lbs it's a joke. They wouldn't be able to make 147 so they would have to fight at 160 and that adds much more comp in the division plus the weight will be closer to what they walk around at.
            Last edited by Caught Square; 11-10-2015, 02:06 PM.

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            • New England
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              #16
              friday weigh ins are designed to make fights, particularly those in casinos, a two day event.

              people gamble twice, stay for an extra night at the hotel, have twice the opportunities to shop, use restarants, etc.



              they're not going anywhere.

              they might start to mandate another weigh in on the day of the fight, bt you should get used to the idea that fighters in big fights will be weighing in on friday, and fighting satruday.

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              • NEETzsche
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                #17
                imo the fight night limit should be just below the upper limit of the next weight class up, e.g. a WW shouldn't be more than 153.9 lbs during the fight. the only way i can think of to ensure that they don't game the weight limits by draining themselves is to weigh them again immediately after the fight, like as soon as they exit the ring, and then punish them if they have failed to make weight, i.e. strip their titles, reverse the result and apply a fine and/or ban, just as if they'd failed a drug test. this is a preventative method that wouldn't merely cause fighters to dehydrate themselves even more harshly

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                  #18
                  Having day before weigh-ins is a matter of safety for the fighter allowing them to properly rehydrate. Drying out is the norm in the sport, just about every fighter does it to some extent at different levels.

                  When a fighter dries out he obviously is trying to squeeze every ounce of water from his body that he can. Doing this reduces the fluid that is around the brain that acts as a shock absorber to cushion the brain should it collide with the skull. Take this fluid away and there is much less protection for the brain should it impact with the skull.

                  I can't recall the name of the fluid but I do know that drastically reducing your water content will take away that cushion.

                  Being an ex fighter I am all for day before weigh-ins.

                  I remember drying out in the ams and having to fight 3 or 4 hours later. It's like fighting with nothing inside of you. You can eat and such before your bout but can only eat so much so that you are not bloated and bogged down in your bout. Of course drinking plenty of water to replenish your body is key, but again, you can only drink so much before you are actually hampering your performance that lies just hours away.

                  I'm all for day before weigh-ins ...........

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                  • gee73
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by NEETzsche
                    imo the fight night limit should be just below the upper limit of the next weight class up, e.g. a WW shouldn't be more than 153.9 lbs during the fight. the only way i can think of to ensure that they don't game the weight limits by draining themselves is to weigh them again immediately after the fight, like as soon as they exit the ring, and then punish them if they have failed to make weight, i.e. strip their titles, reverse the result and apply a fine and/or ban, just as if they'd failed a drug test. this is a preventative method that wouldn't merely cause fighters to dehydrate themselves even more harshly
                    That idea is really ******. Some fighters, especially in the higher weighclasses lose up to 15 pounds of water in a 12 round fight...

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                    • Bardock
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by miniq
                      Another reason Rios is retiring...he can't make 147 anymore...LOL.

                      Divisions would get shook up HUGELY with same day weigh ins....

                      most people would be moving up a division.

                      99.99% of all boxers

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