Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: They Pressure Me To Move Up, Not Others

[aboutfkntime]

You obviously care because you keep arguing with me about it. I simply said he avoided DeGale and you went all **** and technical about it. And now you're getting technical about the link I provided as if you won the argument. The point is it's a good fight despite what you think and obviously there are other options for Ward so he moved up to LHW, I'm not mad or criticizing Ward about that.

And I never said I demanded the fight you ****** ****, I just said he avoided him. There you go again putting words in my mouth, it's ridiculous. Here I'll provide other links where it doesn't get "explicit" about if DeGale isn't ready.

http://www.proboxing-fans.com/top-opponents-for-andre-ward-with-comeback-out-of-the-way_062315/

http://www.sportsworldnews.com/artic...roc-nation.htm

You were silly, and I corrected you.

It's all good ^^

[aboutfkntime]

Hey genius if you don't care, than why did you ask me this ****** question? Why do you constantly ask me questions about DeGale.

I TRULY don't care about a Ward/Degale fight.

Not with Kovalev looming.

Neither me, you, nor anybody else thinks that Degale would win.

If Degale can't beat Groves, he sure-as-hell aint gonna beat Ward.

That is why your fixation with insinuating that Ward ducked Degale is coming across like a really desperate attempt to diminish Ward because of the way he recently punked Golovkin.

[Boxingwizard]

You were silly, and I corrected you.

It's all good ^^

You didn't correct me at all, Ward backed out of negotiating a fight with DeGale twice in 2013, 2014, and in 2015 DeGale was still calling out Ward. You didn't know that until I mentioned it and I even provided sources. If there was never any negotiations that happened or DeGale never called out Ward, than you would have a point, but the fact is it did happen. And unless you know what's going on in Ward's mind or your part of Ward's camp you can't state to why Ward backed out of fighting DeGale. You assume, you think it's because Ward felt like DeGale had "Groves problems", but you don't know that for sure.

[Boxingwizard]

I TRULY don't care about a Ward/Degale fight.

Not with Kovalev looming.

Neither me, you, nor anybody else thinks that Degale would win.

If Degale can't beat Groves, he sure-as-hell aint gonna beat Ward.

That is why your fixation with insinuating that Ward ducked Degale is coming across like a really desperate attempt to diminish Ward because of the way he recently punked Golovkin.

I know you don't care but you keep bringing up DeGale. I don't need to diminish Ward because he did that to himself by being inactive for so long and making odd career moves such as suing his promoter hence why he was out of the rankings from ESPN, Boxrec, and the Ring. I didn't say he ducked Degale out of fear because Ward has never publicly stated to why he pulled out of negotiations with DeGale. I just said he avoided him, just like how he avoided a fight with Yunieski Gonzalez. Why didn't he accept HBO's offer to fight Gonzalez? I don't know maybe Ward felt like Gonzalez had Pascal problems. And you think I have this fixation with talking about DeGale, no that's you.

[aboutfkntime]

You didn't correct me at all, Ward backed out of negotiating a fight with DeGale twice in 2013, 2014, and in 2015 DeGale was still calling out Ward. You didn't know that until I mentioned it and I even provided sources. If there was never any negotiations that happened or DeGale never called out Ward, than you would have a point, but the fact is it did happen. And unless you know what's going on in Ward's mind or your part of Ward's camp you can't state to why Ward backed out of fighting DeGale. You assume, you think it's because Ward felt like DeGale had "Groves problems", but you don't know that for sure.

Yea I did.

I pointed out that you - for some reason - are obviously desperate to insinuate that Ward ducked Degale..... this is despite admitting that Ward would beat Degale, despite Degale NOT being the most deserving SMW, and despite Degale OBVIOUSLY having Groves problems.

The fact that you dont acknowledge that Degale has Groves problems is hilarious, and proof that you are being irrationally biased.

Groves has actually beaten Degale TWICE son, maybe you didn't know that.

Degale won at Olympic medal despite not even being the best fighter in his own gym.

Sorry, but I gotta peg you as just another dopey golovtard. Not only do you appear to have no feel for the game, but I see distinct unwarranted bias in your posts.

[aboutfkntime]

I know you don't care but you keep bringing up DeGale. I don't need to diminish Ward because he did that to himself by being inactive for so long and making odd career moves such as suing his promoter hence why he was out of the rankings from ESPN, Boxrec, and the Ring. I didn't say he ducked Degale out of fear because Ward has never publicly stated to why he pulled out of negotiations with DeGale. I just said he avoided him, just like how he avoided a fight with Yunieski Gonzalez. Why didn't he accept HBO's offer to fight Gonzalez? I don't know maybe Ward felt like Gonzalez had Pascal problems. And you think I have this fixation with talking about DeGale, no that's you.

OK, and this is the bias I was referring to.

You couldn't stick with the Degale " duck " LOL...... you had to do the "inactive, blah, blah" thing as well.

You are completely transparent.

YOU ARE FKN DESPERATE TO DIMINISH WARD !!

Just another dumb cvnt with no feel for the game..... talking ****, simply because he can.

Keep up the good work son.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yea I did.

I pointed out that you - for some reason - are obviously desperate to insinuate that Ward ducked Degale..... this is despite admitting that Ward would beat Degale, despite Degale NOT being the most deserving SMW, and despite Degale OBVIOUSLY having Groves problems.

The fact that you dont acknowledge that Degale has Groves problems is hilarious, and proof that you are being irrationally biased.

Groves has actually beaten Degale TWICE son, maybe you didn't know that.

Degale won at Olympic medal despite not even being the best fighter in his own gym.

Sorry, but I gotta peg you as just another dopey golovtard. Not only do you appear to have no feel for the game, but I see distinct unwarranted bias in your posts.

Whoah, back up there kiddo. Have you actually seen either of those fights?

What is this "having Groves problems" **** you're spouting? Jesus did that lame Mayweather catchphrase actually catch on with some people?

DeGale tried for years to get a rematch with Groves. And what does that have to do with a potential fight with Andre Ward last year?

Are all Ward's opponents supposed to be undefeated?

[Boxingwizard]

Yea I did.

I pointed out that you - for some reason - are obviously desperate to insinuate that Ward ducked Degale..... this is despite admitting that Ward would beat Degale, despite Degale NOT being the most deserving SMW, and despite Degale OBVIOUSLY having Groves problems.

The fact that you dont acknowledge that Degale has Groves problems is hilarious, and proof that you are being irrationally biased.

Groves has actually beaten Degale TWICE son, maybe you didn't know that.

Degale won at Olympic medal despite not even being the best fighter in his own gym.

Not only do you appear to have no feel for the game, but I see distinct unwarranted bias in your posts.

Fact - DeGale has been pushing for a fight with Ward since 2013, which you ignore despite having Groves problems.

Fact - Ward pulled out of fighting DeGale twice.

Fact - An interview two years ago with Virgil Hunter, the interview asked if Ward was ready to move up to LHW. Hunter's response? He said that there were plenty of fighters in the SMW division that would give Ward a challenge, he mentioned DeGale.

I'm aware that DeGale has unfinished with Groves and I actually agree with you, and despite your feeling that DeGale didn't deserve a fight with Groves (which doesn't mean $h!t) DeGale didn't feel the same way, he was still pushing for a fight with Ward.

Sorry, but I gotta peg you as just another dopey golovtard. Not only do you appear to have no feel for the game, but I see distinct unwarranted bias in your posts?

You are a dumb cvnt aren't you? Look it my favorite fighters list, what does it say clown?

[Boxingwizard]

OK, and this is the bias I was referring to.

You couldn't stick with the Degale " duck " LOL...... you had to do the "inactive, blah, blah" thing as well.

You are completely transparent.

YOU ARE FKN DESPERATE TO DIMINISH WARD !!

Just another dumb cvnt with no feel for the game..... talking ****, simply because he can.

Keep up the good work son.

Dumb cvnt? You don't know **** about the "game". If you knew **** about the game you would have been aware that DeGale made attempts to negotiate with Ward to fight him and Ward turned him down twice.

Oh and I'm not trying to diminish Ward, he was out of the rankings from boxrec, ESPN, etc. The only dumb cvnt here is you.

[aboutfkntime]

Whoah, back up there kiddo. Have you actually seen either of those fights?

What is this "having Groves problems" **** you're spouting? Jesus did that lame Mayweather catchphrase actually catch on with some people?

DeGale tried for years to get a rematch with Groves. And what does that have to do with a potential fight with Andre Ward last year?

Are all Ward's opponents supposed to be undefeated?

Groves beat Degale twice, once in the am's, once as a pro.

Groves holds back-to-back wins over Degale.

That my friend..... is referred to as a " problem ".

And yes I saw that fight.

The means is irrelevant. What did Jones do with Griffin ?

Degale should be screaming for Groves just to set the record straight.

I like Degale, and I rate him..... I rate him higher than I do Groves..... but the fact remains that Groves still holds a win over Degale.

There are likely THOUSANDS of Brits right now who will insist that Groves is a better fighter than Degale based on those 2 wins..... if Degale doesn't see that as a problem, then he doesn't take the sport too seriously.

In short...... boxingwizard's insinuation that Ward ducked Degale is rubbish.

So Degale made him an offer..... so fkn what LOL..... Ward made Golovkin a ton of offers but I bet that genius boxingwizard doesn't see that as a duck.