There's a difference between moving up and growing out a division.

[DreamerUSA]

Damn ya'll hang on his ****ing nutts like he is a damn monster,why are ya'll so afraid for him to fight at 168?? He literally is chasing a retired Froch to fight at 168 but ya'll do not want him to fight anyone prime there?? why?

As a fan, I prefer guys clean out their division, become undisputed, and earn the right to say they are the best in a division. I'm not a fan of just annointing a guy the best on paper. Now in many cases that just is'nt possible due to ducking, politics and money, but GGG actually has a chance to do it. So yes I would prefer he stay at 160 rather than move up to 168, when competition wise, there is'nt much difference between the two divisions.

[creekrat77]

Yea they shouldn't but taking on more weight that they can't control has its downsides. Take Diego Coralles. He was a giant at 130. Not so much at around welterweight

[Doctor_Tenma]

Who's to say when that happens though? When someone grows out of a division does that mean that they can no longer make the lower weight at all? I look at someone like Ricky Burns who used to say how difficult it was for him to make lightweight, so then he moves up, has a couple of fights including the Figueroa fight and now he fights at lightweight this weekend.

Weight for me is so strange. It depends on the fighter. It depends on the opponent. It depends on the payday. So many different factors are involved imo.

Shane Mosley is also a good example of that, someone who expressed how difficult it was to make 147 but continued to fight there years after. You raise a good question.

[SilverMiles]

Most MW don't even rehydrate to 170 let alone walk around at that weight, doesn't Quillen rehydrate to like 180?

I'm pretty sure Lemule, Jacobs, Quillin, Murray, and Geale walk around 180. They all look nice and full when not training.

Even Bradley walks around in the mid 170, does that mean he should fight at 168.

[SilverMiles]

He hasnt done the last thing.

Based on rankings he fought 7 top fighters.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I'm pretty sure Lemule, Jacobs, Quillin, Murray, and Geale walk around 180. They all look nice and full when not training.

Even Bradley walks around in the mid 170, does that mean he should fight at 168.

Yeah but Bradley gets out of shape, that's like asking if Hatton should fight at LHW or Broner at 168. It makes no sense because those guys aren't in shape.

[Johnwoo8686]

Based on rankings he fought 7 top fighters.

Oh yeah, like who? lol

[b00g13man]

Loooooool. You guys have the best excuses. Gotta hand it to you. You really idolize the man.

[soul_survivor]

What many people fail to realize is that there's a difference between moving up and growing out a division.

De La Hoya grew out of 147 to 154 he moved up from 154 to 160.

Manny grew out of 135 to 140. He moved up from 140 to 147.

Mayweather grew up from 140 to 147. He moved up from 147 to 154.

Fighters shouldn't get bonus points for growing up. And in reality most guys only move up willing one division. Even rarer is someone who moves up two division.

While it's cool to be a multi division champion that doesn't make it better than being undisputed champion in one division with many title defenses.

There's more than one road to greatness and it's time fans start accepting.

agreed completely

[Bram]

Shane Mosley is also a good example of that, someone who expressed how difficult it was to make 147 but continued to fight there years after. You raise a good question.

Shane Mosley is a great example! Not only did he do that at welterweight, but when he was a lightweight, he jumped directly from 135 to 147. Seemingly saying that he couldn't do 135 anymore, but he was also saying that he either couldn't make 140 or he just had no interest in it. So we could say he grew out of lightweight, but just moved up from jww because DLH money was 7 lbs. higher.