Comments Thread For: Sanchez: Golovkin Only Goes To 154 For Mayweather

[HeroBando]

You're NOT understanding GGG doesn't have a reputation now, not according to his PPV numbers.

So you are saying Lemieux brought more financially to the table than Ward?

He certainly costs more, like 2-3x. And GGG is not taking short money vs lesser draw, so it'd do very well to break even. And when the bigger guy is expected to use smothering tactics, that's not a recipe for return customers. Either way Ward was talking next year, 50/50 lol

[sirron000]

He certainly costs more, like 2-3x. And GGG is not taking short money vs lesser draw, so it'd do very well to break even. And when the bigger guy is expected to use smothering tactics, that's not a recipe for return customers. Either way Ward was talking next year, 50/50 lol

Smothering tactics? Can you say inside fighting? GGG just looks uncomfortable fighting on the inside, he didn't know what to do when Monroe Jr. was fighting him on the inside. He was really uncomfortable, don't you agree?

[j0zef]

You're NOT understanding GGG doesn't have a reputation now, not according to his PPV numbers.

So you are saying Lemieux brought more financially to the table than Ward?

No matter how much you and other Ward fans want to believe it, Golovkin does have a reputation, and it's growing quickly. His PPV numbers were slightly disappointing, but the event was still a financial success.


Absolutely, I think Lemieux brought more financially than Ward would have. Casual fans have no idea who either Lemieux or Ward are now. Having Lemieux on the card gave it a 'unification' theme with belts on the line. Fighting Ward would have no theme.

Also, for arguments sake, let's say that fighting Ward would have been more profitable. Let's say, for argument sake, that GGG could have gotten 3m for the fight instead of 2m.
If you were a Golovkin, would you rather fight a guy in your division with a chance to win a title for 2m, or fight a guy who's 12 lbs heavier, no belt for 3m? This is a no brainer.

[HeroBando]

Smothering tactics? Can you say inside fighting? GGG just looks uncomfortable fighting on the inside, he didn't know what to do when Monroe Jr. was fighting him on the inside. He was really uncomfortable, don't you agree?

I dunno what you can take from the Monroe fight. Most said he's got no defense, turns out he's got a little. But I don't remember much clinching or mauling. I'm just saying, it's not a style sellable on PPV. You gotta have a very strong A side, and apparently GGG is not it, yet.

[sirron000]

No matter how much you and other Ward fans want to believe it, Golovkin does have a reputation, and it's growing quickly. His PPV numbers were slightly disappointing, but the event was still a financial success.


Absolutely, I think Lemieux brought more financially than Ward would have. Casual fans have no idea who either Lemieux or Ward are now. Having Lemieux on the card gave it a 'unification' theme with belts on the line. Fighting Ward would have no theme.

Also, for arguments sake, let's say that fighting Ward would have been more profitable. Let's say, for argument sake, that GGG could have gotten 3m for the fight instead of 2m.
If you were a Golovkin, would you rather fight a guy in your division with a chance to win a title for 2m, or fight a guy who's 12 lbs heavier, no belt for 3m? This is a no brainer.

Not just casual fans, hardcore fans didn't buy into the 'unification' belt theme-hence the 97k buys.

If I was GGG and thought I could beat Ward I would have fought for the extra million. But some fighters dare to be great.

[about.thousands]

What is the inside info? Somebody made an offer to fight Lara that Sanchez rejected? Who? Sanchez was asked about Lara, and took the opportunity to put him down as a zero draw, which is just about right

While putting him down as zero draw he justified the Monroe fight by saying Monroe was a bigger draw and more people know him. Do you agree?

[Bigg Rigg]

Cool story bro. Now don't cry when Cotto or Canelo ask u to make 155 or 157. Idc if it's a unification title fight. GGG and co are about money right??? That why only Froch or Jr can get it at 168, Ward 164 ONLY. So when Cotto or Canelo get on their money **** don't start b1tching. WBC can strip them if they want and announce Golovkin as the full mw champ on Facebook. Think that bull**** takes him to the next level?? Nah..... Regular HBO vs cans is all I see in Gi Gi's future.

[sirron000]

I dunno what you can take from the Monroe fight. Most said he's got no defense, turns out he's got a little. But I don't remember much clinching or mauling. I'm just saying, it's not a style sellable on PPV. You gotta have a very strong A side, and apparently GGG is not it, yet.

But according to a lot of NSB, FMJ clinches 200 times a fight but he's sellable, right?

So let's not say what casuals like when they bought FMJ vs Berto or was that just hardcore fans?

GGG will not be a strong A side unless he gives in to either Cotto or Alvarez demands and actually beats them. No one is going to pay anything to see him fight C-level competition.

[about.thousands]

You know that fight is not easily possible politically. And there's no incentive for GGG to fight him. He's not a big enough draw to go through the hassle of setting up that fight. Unless he had a 160 title, there's no point.

In the video in question Sanchez was justifying Monroe over Lara because Monroe is more well known and is a bigger draw. Do you agree?

[aboutfkntime]

Educate yourself, mate.

Golovkin has said he has no interest in Chavez in April 15. The negotiations/talks with Ward went through June 15 before they broke down because Ward stated he needs tune ups first.

Everyone acts as if Golovkin still has desire to fight that fattie today. Ever since his title contention gained legitimacy (signing of Lemieux fight), he has not expressed any desire in anyone besides other MW title holders (and Floyd, but that's self explanatory)

See it that way if you wish, but this is what really happened.....

First it was this, Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 168
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...-at-154160-168

Then Andre Ward announced his comeback.

Then it became this, " Nobody at 154/160 can go 12 rounds with Golovkin "
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Abel_...ht_us/10102303

Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight.

So now it is, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight "
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/boxing-new...titles-1476074

When the Golovkin hype-train left the station, most fans were under the impression that GGG actually wanted to fight guys like Ward/Cotto/Canelo.