John Ruiz - Vitali Klitschko

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  • guru
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheRealMan
    Just look at Byrd's faces after both fights ...
    I said "the old Holyfield", the one against Ruiz, you know, the one who gave Lewis still a very good fight, then fought Ruiz three times in a row and beat Rahman afterwards. That Holyfield would have beat both Sanders and Williams in my view.

    well, our opinions differ... i think VK wins cause he's:
    - bigger, stronger
    - bigger puncher
    - better chin
    - faster hands
    - more athletic
    - better skilled (not that VK is a master or anything, but ruiz has little skills except to hit and hold)

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    • TheEvilSaint
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      #22
      vitali cannot be bullied by a ***** like ruiz.

      vitali by TKO.

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      • Parody
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        #23
        As much as I dont like Vitali, I think he could stop Ruiz within 8 Rounds, if ruiz keeps holding, then Vitali UD
        Last edited by Parody; 04-12-2006, 06:57 PM.

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        • Leo Pradun
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          #24
          Originally posted by TheRealMan
          Let me explain. My prediction is a late TKO win in favor of Ruiz. I am not saying John is just going in there, bombing Vitali away. Klitschko in my view just doesn't have the experience to deal with the kind of fighter Ruiz is, in my view. He did give Lennox Lewis a great fight, but still lost to a version of Lewis that was far from being at its best.
          I can understand why lots of people would pick Klitschko to win, but I still disagree. Klitschko fought two top contenders and lost to both of them, he struggled against Sanders (in fact Rahman had an easier time with him), beat Hoffmann on points only (so did Akinwande, Mirovic actually, Vidoz even floored him). The old Golota in my view gave Chris Byrd a better fight than Klitschko did, and the old Holyfield was better than anybody Vitali defeated.
          I am not trying to take anything away from Klitschko or any other boxer, but Ruiz was a way better champ and would have beat Klitschko, I think so, by wearing him out by body punches and stopping him late.
          klitschko by murder within 4 rounds, vitali would beat ruiz worse then he beat sanders...

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          • beez721
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            #25
            Originally posted by whoami
            ruiz will kill klitchscho in a boring 12 rounders. he lost to jones and toney cuz they are smaller and faster guys. klistcho is a frankenstein enough said
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH,,,,this has to be either a major klit hater or norman stone or even ruiz himself,,lol

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            • beez721
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              #26
              Originally posted by TheRealMan
              Rahman was not down in his fight against Sanders. This KD was not legit in my view, it was the ropes that caused the balance problems. You described the Maskaev bout.
              Golota didn't lose, it was a draw. Klitschko was ahead on points, but the number of landed punches were about equal.
              That were different versions of Holyfield, cannot be compared at all.

              raesaad, fair post.
              lol,,,,rahman was down twice and hurt at other times,,,only one was ruled a knockdown. sanders was getting the better of it for the first 4 rounds till he ran out of gas

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              • TheRealMan
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                #27
                Originally posted by beez721
                lol,,,,rahman was down twice and hurt at other times,,,only one was ruled a knockdown. sanders was getting the better of it for the first 4 rounds till he ran out of gas
                Please rewatch the fight, Sanders was down twice, not Rahman. And Hasim never was in that kind of trouble Vitali was (first round, counter left, running scared).
                I am not trying to convince you my view is right or yours are wrong. I want to discuss it, please stick to the truth and do no make things up.

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                • BadMagick
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by guru
                  this is funny... ruiz struggled with fres, an old holyfield and golota, while losing to 2 middleweights and a giant orge..... VK has never even been floored and ruiz is gonna stop him?
                  You don't have to floor a guy to stop him.

                  I'm not saying Ruiz would win, I don't think he would. He's not a good body puncher, he doesn't throw in combos, and he just doesn't have the size or athleticism to beat VK. I'd be surprised if it didn't end ala Tua, to be honest, with Ruiz getting blasted out early and swift. Maybe not 19 seconds early, but early nonetheless.

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                  • guru
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by TheRealMan
                    Please rewatch the fight, Sanders was down twice, not Rahman. And Hasim never was in that kind of trouble Vitali was (first round, counter left, running scared).
                    I am not trying to convince you my view is right or yours are wrong. I want to discuss it, please stick to the truth and do no make things up.

                    i re-watched the fight and IMO rahman was in serious trouble at times in the fight... VK was never in any trouble except for the end of the 1st round... rahman was stunned in the early rounds and knockdowned... here's a link to a recap of the fight:

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                    • j
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                      #30
                      therealman, you joined less than a month ago and already lost credibility.


                      this shouldn't even be a topic!

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