Comments Thread For: WBO: Abraham-Murray Winner To Face Gilberto Ramirez

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ramirez is ok, my problem with it is that they are selective with when they enforce things and when they let them slide. Seemingly based on what will benefit Arum.

Blatant corruption like that between a promoter and a sanctioning body should be pointed out and not accepted. We have enough ****ed up things happening with the alphabet orgs as it is.

*****.

Isn't he WBO number 1?

But I'm sure you're ok with them letting Mayweather hang onto those JMW belts until the end of eternity or giving Deontay Wilder 7 years to prepare for his Povetkin mandatory.

Mayweather-Pacquaio happened. It was ****. Move on and try being a boxing fan again.

[M Bison]

That sounds promising, I'm happy with this I think Ramirez could beat both but it wont be easy for him

[tiliheels]

**** like this is why i just dont get why abraham just didnt make a bit of a huge fight with ramerez instead...now the gggtards will come and tell me that murray won this fight and is an elite fighter only for zurdo kno knock his head off the next fight...

sometimes i hate this sport...we never get justice in our matches

[ShoulderRoll]

What does Mayweather have to do with this thread?

The point is that alphabet groups need to have well defined rules and stick to them consistently regardless of who the champ is, who is ranked #1, and who the promoters are. End of story.

[Build That Wall]

I have a lot of respect for Ramirez, but this has Arum written all over it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What does Mayweather have to do with this thread?

The point is that alphabet groups need to have well defined rules and stick to them consistently regardless of who the champ is, who is ranked #1, and who the promoters are. End of story.

Yes the integrity of the sport! I'm sure that's your agenda here

[SlySlickSmooth]

What does Mayweather have to do with this thread?

The point is that alphabet groups need to have well defined rules and stick to them consistently regardless of who the champ is, who is ranked #1, and who the promoters are. End of story.

This is a fantasy. The ABC groups exist to manipulate rankings just by coexisting. Even if we went back to a single organization the rankings would still be abused because of the sheer amount of talent than can exist at one time in a single division.

Fighters don't fight often enough to keep the rankings in proper order either.

On one hand I think they're good because it gives a fighter exposure, marketability, and better purses but on other hand it's horrible for the fans and low tier managers/promoters because of the politics.

The WBA potentially has 3 damn champions in every division............

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm just happy Abraham might actually lose the title in one of these defences so we can get it out of Germany but people are crying because a Top Rank fighter might win it

[ShoulderRoll]

This is a fantasy. The ABC groups exist to manipulate rankings just by coexisting. Even if we went back to a single organization the rankings would still be abused because of the sheer amount of talent than can exist at one time in a single division.

It's fantasy because we as fans partially allow it to happen by never speaking out.

The WBA is horrendous with their super/regular/interim champs, the WBC never met a Mexican fighter they didn't think deserved to move up the rankings, and on and on.

Just because that's the way things have always been doesn't mean it's the way they should be, though.

[SlySlickSmooth]

It's fantasy because we as fans partially allow it to happen by never speaking out.

The WBA is horrendous with their super/regular/interim champs, the WBC never met a Mexican fighter they didn't think deserved to move up the rankings, and on and on.

Just because that's the way things have always been doesn't mean it's the way they should be, though.

To be frank about it, I don't think there's enough boxing fans to speak out. How are we supposed to speak out? Have everyone tweet to the organizations at the same time? I guess it's possible.

There are probably fans who accept corruption as a norm in the sport, not that I am one of them but I do recognize it is part of the game.