Ruiz In Retrospect...

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  • neverlast
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    Ruiz In Retrospect...

    Ruiz In Retrospect...

    Well Nikolay Valuev has finally freed us of the clutches of John Ruiz.
    Will John decide to retire ? We'll see. Rumor has it that Valuev is going
    to defend against fringe contender Owen Beck instead of giving John a
    rematch. In a lot of these cases money talks and bull**** walks. If John
    does decide to retire here is a little retrospect on his career. No John was
    far from exciting. He gave a new meaning to the phrase "Winning Ugly".
    But...He won.
    He was a major player in the heavyweight picture for a long time. He beat
    a lot of fighters that on paper he should have lost to. Holyfield, Kirk
    Johnson, Fres Oquendo and Andrew Golota come to mind.
    What I am leading up to is that John made the most out of his raw ability
    and his gameness. Yes he was out boxed by Roy Jones Jr. and out foxed by a
    possibly " juiced " James Toney. Throw the Tua debacle out the window. If
    John Ruiz had nothing else, he had balls !
    The job of a manager is to make the most money he can for his fighter by
    matching his man with other men he feels can be beaten. The manager's job is
    to manuver his charge up through the ratings at a minimal risk. If his boxer
    is fortunate enough to gain a high ranking and secure a title shot, then the
    manager has done well.
    If the fighter is fortunate enough to actually win a title then it is up
    to the manager to try and keep his charge as champion for as long as
    possible by matching him with boxers that are competetive enough to secure a
    decent payday. The trick here is not to overmatch your boxer unless the
    payday is just too much to pass up.
    I don't know for sure how much control Norman "Stoney' Stone had in the
    overall making of John's matches, but I'm sure his voice was heard. I know
    Mr. Stone is not the most popular man with the press, etc...Still you have
    to give him his do. By all accounts John Ruiz should retire a very wealthy
    man. Add to that the fact that he was never matched with Lennox Lewis.
    John is a lucky man. "Stoney" did his job well.
  • Dirt E Gomez
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    I always quasi-admired Ruiz for relatively going so far and doing so much with so little. The man was not physically gifted nor gifted with boxing abilities but managed to hold onto his titles for more than a couple of fights each time.

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    • Rockin'
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      I do commend him for doing as well as he did, with some obvious perks from the King.

      But watching his fights was like wathching a movie and waiting for the good parts to come up, and waiting and waiting......

      Rockin'

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      • SnoopySmurf
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        He was a much better boxer before until he met David Tua. After that, he began to clinch more than box.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #5
          Ruiz definitely got more out of his talent than anybody I've seen. I mean he has NO talent. He's not a boxer, he's not a brawl, his punch is very mediocre until he gets desperate...I always respected Ruiz for winning fights against Holyfield, Rahman, and Golota (though I had Golota by a point, Ruiz came back STRONG without his trainer, down twice (one B.S.) and having a point taken away for a late hit or some ****). Ruiz is pimp!

          I just hate how he's been talking so much lately, protesting every decision and bashing Toney, although I'd probably say he only beat me due to steroids too in order to save my image.

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