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Originally posted by onetwopunch View Post- Ok you stated "golovkin is the best and just don't like to accept it" Then you reference the likes of Mayweather,Canelo, Ward and Cotto. All these guys have fought better competition than GGG. You cant call yourself the best when you are fighting guys from a lower weight class. Cotto is doing that catch weight thing now..but When Cotto was coming up, he fought and won a belt at 140, then 147, then 154, thats 3 solid weight divisions fighting big name fighters, and going up in weight to fight them. GGG is waiting at 160 for what? would he beat Cotto or Canelo yes he would at 160. But does that make him the best fighter out there?..nope not even close he is just the bigger and stronger guy. Again you need to fight the best to be the best. He has not fought any quality competition. As an example when Roy Jones was in his prime he moved up in weight to fight guys, he didn't have smaller guys move up to fight him.
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Originally posted by Red Cyclone View PostCotto hasn't beat anyone good, he's only lost to good fighters and your average run of the mill brawlers lol.
Margarito - That's like losing to Rubio, not only did Cotto go life and death with him but even in their rematch as an older man Margarito showed it wasn't plasters that won him the fight that and the only way Cotto could beat him was with Pacquiao injuring his eye badly
Clottey - A hard fighter but nothing special in same mold as someone like Adama, he has a great chin and If you get tagged by him you're going to get hurt but Cotto lost this fight against someone like Clottey he had to rely on a judge robbery?
Look at Cotto face after fighting Clottey
GGG knocks these type of guys out and dominate them and fights them at their own game, Cotto goes life and death and robs a decision?
Austin Trout - A fairly game type of opponent someone who utilizes good footwork and can fight at range with a jab, you see what happened when someone done this to Cotto?
Cotto had absolutely no answer, he got took to school by this guy and Trout is likely a level or two below the likes of Willie Munroe Jr lol.
Pacquiao and Mayweather - We don't need to excuse those losses he got his ass handed to him by both fighters we knew this would happen because he just simply isn't near that level nor is he that good to roll with the big dogs like GGG.
With this all said I think its blatantly clear that Cotto is an overrated fighter who hasn't achieved much except from losing every big fight he's ever had, he's a failure in boxing and now he is a diva ducking the true MW champion and now he is masquerading under the guise of being a Jr WW, how utterly and shamefully pathetic is that?
Go on Cotto, take a knee and **** off out of this sport
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostI'll reply to you m8......u have fair people on this site who want the best for boxing and to see a boxer do it the right way....win all the belts by fighting everybody no matter where it is....and that's golovkin.....people like his style because he relentlessly breaks you down bit by bit until your broken....and is polite and shows a totally different style...then there the other bozos on this site (ward,mayweather,canelo and cotto groupies) they know that golovkin is the best and just don't like to accept it.....golovkin has beaten everybody who would fight him.....the others just don't have the balls to get in the ring me....golovkin will get his wayOriginally posted by Steve plunger View PostLook were not talking about p4p achievements were talking about who will rule the division...I never once questioned cotto's or mayweathers achievements in lower divisions....were talking about this division ....the middleweights...not light welters not welters and not 155.....so you are confident that cotto and canelo beat golovkin as a middleweight.....no 155.....160 that's the middleweight division are you confident of it...if so we can have a bet.....we can private message find out our name and Facebook profiles and have a bet....I'm saying now golovkin is the best middleweight in the world...he holds more belts at that weight than anybody else..He's not refusing to fight anybody at 160 as well.....we talking over past...were talking here and now lol.....and just to addwhat I meant by mayweather and ward Is it seems to me there's a race thing going on here in regards to the whole golovkin ward situation....floyds retired so now they have turned to Andre ward as there saviour and grace and will write what ever nonsense comes into there head..these fans also side with canelo or cotto just because golovkin is involved that's what I meant by that..I don't know what category you fall into with regards to that....as I said golovkin is the best 160 pound fighter in the world and it's widely considered that by impartial people.......I judge a fight on how it would end up on one thing only and that's the eye test.....and without question golovkin is the most dominant force in the division whether you like it or not...which make him the best at 160 lol
"they know that golovkin is the best and just don't like to accept it..."
He is not the best. I'm not interested in your facebook account or anything of that nature, I'm just interested in your above statements.
- And here "floyds retired so now they have turned to Andre ward as there saviour "
What are you talking about? who are you referring to when you say "they" ?
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Originally posted by onetwopunch View Post- Ok you stated "golovkin is the best and just don't like to accept it" Then you reference the likes of Mayweather,Canelo, Ward and Cotto. All these guys have fought better competition than GGG. You cant call yourself the best when you are fighting guys from a lower weight class. Cotto is doing that catch weight thing now..but When Cotto was coming up, he fought and won a belt at 140, then 147, then 154, thats 3 solid weight divisions fighting big name fighters, and going up in weight to fight them. GGG is waiting at 160 for what? would he beat Cotto or Canelo yes he would at 160. But does that make him the best fighter out there?..nope not even close he is just the bigger and stronger guy. Again you need to fight the best to be the best. He has not fought any quality competition. As an example when Roy Jones was in his prime he moved up in weight to fight guys, he didn't have smaller guys move up to fight him.
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Nuthugging groupie fanboys
Mark my words - September 2016 is when Canelo will fight Golovkin. Just wait you POS's. You heard it here first. IIrc Canelo has never weighed in at 159 😂😂 O_o I want to like Golovkin and be a fan, but his fans prevent me from doing that. A bunch of the people on this site are hypocrites as well, holy hell it's unbelievable
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Originally posted by onetwopunch View Post- I agree that GGG is the best MW fighter out there. Even if he hasn't fought anyone. Just judging by his power alone and decent boxing skill. But here is where I have a problem, and you clearly stated this in the above 1st quote
"they know that golovkin is the best and just don't like to accept it..."
He is not the best. I'm not interested in your facebook account or anything of that nature, I'm just interested in your above statements.
- And here "floyds retired so now they have turned to Andre ward as there saviour "
What are you talking about? who are you referring to when you say "they" ?Last edited by The plunger man; 10-30-2015, 11:16 AM.
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostLet's get one thing straight...cotto and canelo are choosing to compete in the middleweights ....cotto certainly don't have to because he can make 154...canelo claims he can still make it so there...so why are they fighting for a championship if they don't want to fight golovkin ....there choosing to be in his division...it's his weight class .....not there weight class ....so if there in that division there fair game no.....now if you go to to the original comment I posted about was...they guy wrote who at 160 can golovkin fight to give himself recognition...I simply stated he is the best At middleweight and he has beaten everybody put in front of him.....when I stated the best....yes the best in his division period and if the others agree to fight him then he will prove it......golovkin is a middlweight and he has stated he wants all the belts at that weight.... Most boxers are bred into boxing and from a young age you want to be undisputed champion and get all the belts....I see nothing wrong with that at all......now your using the excuse of why don't he move up and fight....I'm sure he will, in fact again will wager with you that as soon as he clears all the middleweights he will move up......but not because of some bozo on boxing scenes forum think he should lol...look you have no argument with this u have been owned
Thanks for clearing yourself up, I agree GGG is the best MW out there. But he is not the best, who should of stated that in your first post when you wrote Golovkin is the best..Because we all know he clearly isn't .
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Originally posted by onetwopunch View Post- Cotto at this point in his career does not need GGG. Its pointless. GGG needs Cotto or Canelo he needs a name on his resume. And even if he were to beat them..whats the point?, he beat 2 blown up Welterweights? It will not add anything to his or your claim of him being the best MW. He needs to fight real MW, Lee or even Jacobs. Cotto is not a MW, but he won the MW title..that a real big deal, 4 weight division champion, future HOF fighter.
Thanks for clearing yourself up, I agree GGG is the best MW out there. But he is not the best, who should of stated that in your first post when you wrote Golovkin is the best..Because we all know he clearly isn't .
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