Comments Thread For: GGG's Coach: If You're Not Real 160, Don't Fight For Title

[KnickTillDeaTh]

You don't have a clue what your talking.....hagler made massive purses as a middleweight and in 1983, 1985 and 1987 he made over 10 pillion purses......those guys moved up to him...Duran hearns and Leonard not one of them asked for a lower weight even though they were not middleweights so the proof that we actually have is hagler made bigger purses than cotto considering there was no internet and no home t.v...just closed circuit at cinemas and all his biggest purses were against smaller fighters who didn't ask for a catchweight not to mention none of them were actually holding the WBC title......as for salads yeah sure.....in the street anytime you want son. No back up just one on one..no guns as all you lot only fight that way....don't bring your racist **** to me as I have good friends I boxed with ...as for Internet hard man not at all I treat people with contempt who talk like idiots and bring there racist crap to a forum.....do me favour go ask hagler what he would think of a fighter who holds the middleweight title who has no intention of fighting anybody above 155 and hagler iis actually the number 1 mandatory but they are refusing to fight him.....I know what hagler would say. ....hagler has a fierce love for the middleweight belt and you if think otherwise your from his era....think what you think homie

As I said if Cotto represented Haggler's biggest pay day Haggler would have fought at the catch weight. I never said one word about what money Haggler made or didn't make. But what you have done is only prove your lack of knowledge. All the fighter's who moved up to fight Haggler were significantly larger then Cotto, so there was no need for them to request a catch weight. And Haggler was already asked and is aware of the catch weights and has not said one negative thing about Cotto. So yes lets stick to the facts, not the make believe land you live in, because all you have done is present your opinion of what Haggler would say, which is unsupported because we can actually see and hear what he has really said.

Nobodie brought race into anything so WTF are you talking about? You jump on this forum using a rediculous slang word, including it in response to everyone you quoted, like a 5 year old learning his first curse word, then you say "one on one any where any time" as if it makes you look any less ******. Internet gangstah living vicariously through words typed on a screen.

[The plunger man]

As I said if Cotto represented Haggler's biggest pay day Haggler would have fought at the catch weight. I never said one word about what money Haggler made or didn't make. But what you have done is only prove your lack of knowledge. All the fighter's who moved up to fight Haggler were significantly larger then Cotto, so there was no need for them to request a catch weight. And Haggler was already asked and is aware of the catch weights and has not said one negative thing about Cotto. So yes lets stick to the facts, not the make believe land you live in, because all you have done is present your opinion of what Haggler would say, which is unsupported because we can actually see and hear what he has really said.

Nobodie brought race into anything so WTF are you talking about? You jump on this forum using a rediculous slang word, including it in response to everyone you quoted, like a 5 year old learning his first curse word, then you say "one on one any where any time" as if it makes you look any less ******. Internet gangstah living vicariously through words typed on a screen.

Look I don't use an this word to people who show the same talk and respect as do when I talk to them....some of them I wind up because they bite and then chomp back....you started bring silly talk about *****es and tossing salad for the homies ..there's a few on here that are clueless and I just give as good as I get.....no hagler wouldn't give them a catchweight no matter what you say...Duran was lightweight...hearns was a welterweight and so was Leonard.....cotto was a weight heavier than lightweight jnr welterweight......don't make this talk that canelo is this world star because if we went back to the 80's in a time machine your find hagler would be a big as star as pacquaio or mayweather especially just after he beat hearns in 3 rounds....mugabi jumped up from light middleweight but he never got hagler down any weight and he weighed 157 for the hagler fight and marvin was 159.....so again no hagler would have given canelo a catchweight ..maybe a mayweather but not a canelo...since when was a lightweight bigger than jnr welterweight.as for Leonard was just a big a star as mayweather and the highest he ever weighed was 151 ....hagler probably does respect cotto as a fighter no doubt but he would not weaken himself to go down to 155 to face canelo.....sorry to burst your bubble lol....You show the same respect to my words...and I'll show the same....if not then it's the same treatment...as for knowledge I have followed boxing since I was 12 and I have a lot of knowledge

[The plunger man]

As I said if Cotto represented Haggler's biggest pay day Haggler would have fought at the catch weight. I never said one word about what money Haggler made or didn't make. But what you have done is only prove your lack of knowledge. All the fighter's who moved up to fight Haggler were significantly larger then Cotto, so there was no need for them to request a catch weight. And Haggler was already asked and is aware of the catch weights and has not said one negative thing about Cotto. So yes lets stick to the facts, not the make believe land you live in, because all you have done is present your opinion of what Haggler would say, which is unsupported because we can actually see and hear what he has really said.

Nobodie brought race into anything so WTF are you talking about? You jump on this forum using a rediculous slang word, including it in response to everyone you quoted, like a 5 year old learning his first curse word, then you say "one on one any where any time" as if it makes you look any less ******. Internet gangstah living vicariously through words typed on a screen.

And another thing just to clarify...cotto on his professinal debut weighed 139 and half and 2nd fight he weighed 144lb...durans first pro fight he weighed 120lb......Leonard weighed 141 and a quarter for his pro debut....hearns was the only 1 who weighed 147 at the start of his pro career but he is 6ft 2 almost...Duran was smaller by 20lbs and they both was 5ft 7 so please if your gonna talking about lack of knowlegde please have your info right when you do write back...

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Look I don't use an this word to people who show the same talk and respect as do when I talk to them....some of them I wind up because they bite and then chomp back....you started bring silly talk about *****es and tossing salad for the homies ..there's a few on here that are clueless and I just give as good as I get.....no hagler wouldn't give them a catchweight no matter what you say...Duran was lightweight...hearns was a welterweight and so was Leonard.....cotto was a weight heavier than lightweight jnr welterweight......don't make this talk that canelo is this world star because if we went back to the 80's in a time machine your find hagler would be a big as star as pacquaio or mayweather especially just after he beat hearns in 3 rounds....mugabi jumped up from light middleweight but he never got hagler down any weight and he weighed 157 for the hagler fight and marvin was 159.....so again no hagler would have given canelo a catchweight ..maybe a mayweather but not a canelo...since when was a lightweight bigger than jnr welterweight.as for Leonard was just a big a star as mayweather and the highest he ever weighed was 151 ....hagler probably does respect cotto as a fighter no doubt but he would not weaken himself to go down to 155 to face canelo.....sorry to burst your bubble lol....You show the same respect to my words...and I'll show the same....if not then it's the same treatment...as for knowledge I have followed boxing since I was 12 and I have a lot of knowledge

You are all over the place. I haven't said one word about Canelo, which makes your Mugabi point moot, and where did that come from?lol.... Hagler weighed in at 157 lbs when he fought Duran, same day weigh in, so you are in fact incorrect, based on history if you think Hagler would not accept a catch weight you are wrong. Leonard 5'10, Hearns 6'1. Leonard only had 6 fights under 145 lbs at the very beginning of his career, ****** comparison really. Now try to understand the point I made, which is absolutely accurate, like GGG, "IF" Cotto represented Hagler's biggest pay day then Hagler would accept, especially seeing how he has weighed in at 158 and below multiple times through out his career.

The video has no bearing on what hagler would do to cotto......and hagler is talking in this video before any of this bollocks was released.....hagler cherished that belt and was a traditional middleweight if ever there was one...he carried it will dignity and pride and your trying to tell me that hagler would respect a fighter that claims a belt from 154-160 and is refusing to face a full blown middleweight......if you tried any of that in front of hagler he would slap the taste out of your mouth clunge...he was champ from 1980-1987....even sugar ray Leonard never asked for a catchweight when he moved up from welterweight and his last fight was at 150 in 1984......clunge don't insult marvin hagler who boxed everybody at 160...retry again

^ This is your Quote to me in response to a very simple response I made to another person, wasn't even responding to you. Note the bold.

Heres my quote in response to Thack:

It's interesting that you bring up Haggler, because he's a huge fan of Cotto's, and feels he has represented the belt well. Interview is on youtube.

Now If you don't want to be called out and disrespected on a forum, then do not respond in disproportion.

[The plunger man]

You are all over the place. I haven't said one word about Canelo, which makes your Mugabi point moot, and where did that come from?lol.... Hagler weighed in at 157 lbs when he fought Duran, same day weigh in, so you are in fact incorrect, based on history if you think Hagler would not accept a catch weight you are wrong. Leonard 5'10, Hearns 6'1. Leonard only had 6 fights under 145 lbs at the very beginning of his career, ****** comparison really. Now try to understand the point I made, which is absolutely accurate, like GGG, "IF" Cotto represented Hagler's biggest pay day then Hagler would accept, especially seeing how he has weighed in at 158 and below multiple times through out his career.



^ This is your Quote to me in response to a very simple response I made to another person, wasn't even responding to you. Note the bold.

Heres my quote in response to Thack:



Now If you don't want to be called out and disrespected on a forum, then do not respond in disproportion.

Again back at you....you specifically said cotto is much smaller than duran,leonard and hearns......now again duran was the same height but had his proffesional debut and weighed 120 lbs so how can cotto be smaller than duran ....leonard was 2 inches taller but practically weighed the same in the start of thee careers....so judging on your logic because leonard was taller he is bigger...leonard was taller than Rocky Marciano and dwight Muhammad qawi..your ****ing clueless homie....he was a light heavy and Marciano was heavy...Leonard was also taller than hagler so he was bigger than him ...is that what the saying lol....I said I will give you hearns but your plain wrong about leonard and especially duran.....cotto was 144 duran 120.... Your talking bollocks again....hagler weighed 156 for one fight in his whole career other than that 95 percent of his bouts he was 159 minimum...check it brains .now again hagler would not go down in weight to accommodate cotto for mandatory...he never did one time so we will take it that he never would....why would he was undisputed champion of the world and had 3 of the biggest fights in history and not one of them was a catchweight...and again duran was pro for 15 years when he faced hagler you think he weighed that up to hagler.....he boxed davey Moore in 1983 and for the light middleweight to title which is only 154 .....you ain't called anybody out son....ur plain wrong and you know...hagler would have done this and he would have done that....well he didn't and boxed lighter guys with no catchweights to prove it.....and hagler was on 5ft 8 I know because I have met him lol.....you ain't called anybody out son

[The plunger man]

You are all over the place. I haven't said one word about Canelo, which makes your Mugabi point moot, and where did that come from?lol.... Hagler weighed in at 157 lbs when he fought Duran, same day weigh in, so you are in fact incorrect, based on history if you think Hagler would not accept a catch weight you are wrong. Leonard 5'10, Hearns 6'1. Leonard only had 6 fights under 145 lbs at the very beginning of his career, ****** comparison really. Now try to understand the point I made, which is absolutely accurate, like GGG, "IF" Cotto represented Hagler's biggest pay day then Hagler would accept, especially seeing how he has weighed in at 158 and below multiple times through out his career.



^ This is your Quote to me in response to a very simple response I made to another person, wasn't even responding to you. Note the bold.

Heres my quote in response to Thack:



Now If you don't want to be called out and disrespected on a forum, then do not respond in disproportion.

You outright said cotto was a lot smaller than them when he is not...plain and simple...what else your gonna make up....

[aboutfkntime]

You outright said cotto was a lot smaller than them when he is not...plain and simple...what else your gonna make up....

Cotto weighs 153, you are an idiot.

And good luck comparing era's with same-day weigh-in.

[The plunger man]

Cotto weighs 153, you are an idiot.

And good luck comparing era's with same-day weigh-in.

Well if it's the same day weigh in yesterday fighters were less because they didn't have time to rehydrate...so **** gos your theory clunge

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Again back at you....you specifically said cotto is much smaller than duran,leonard and hearns......now again duran was the same height but had his proffesional debut and weighed 120 lbs so how can cotto be smaller than duran ....leonard was 2 inches taller but practically weighed the same in the start of thee careers....so judging on your logic because leonard was taller he is bigger...leonard was taller than Rocky Marciano and dwight Muhammad qawi..your ****ing clueless homie....he was a light heavy and Marciano was heavy...Leonard was also taller than hagler so he was bigger than him ...is that what the saying lol....I said I will give you hearns but your plain wrong about leonard and especially duran.....cotto was 144 duran 120.... Your talking bollocks again....hagler weighed 156 for one fight in his whole career other than that 95 percent of his bouts he was 159 minimum...check it brains .now again hagler would not go down in weight to accommodate cotto for mandatory...he never did one time so we will take it that he never would....why would he was undisputed champion of the world and had 3 of the biggest fights in history and not one of them was a catchweight...and again duran was pro for 15 years when he faced hagler you think he weighed that up to hagler.....he boxed davey Moore in 1983 and for the light middleweight to title which is only 154 .....you ain't called anybody out son....ur plain wrong and you know...hagler would have done this and he would have done that....well he didn't and boxed lighter guys with no catchweights to prove it.....and hagler was on 5ft 8 I know because I have met him lol.....you ain't called anybody out son

You're clueless bro. Again Hagler weighed in at 157 for the Duran fight. Leonard 5'10", 74" reach, fought under 145 six times in the first year of his career then never again. Cotto 5'7", 67" reach, fought at 140 for almost six years 27 fights at 140 or below. Actually started his career at Lightweight 135 lbs, but moved up to 140 not 144, after 1 fight. That's how Leonard is bigger, and everyone views Leonard as being bigger than Cotto. Anyway this will be my last comment to you, because you obviously have an agenda. Seriously sitting here and claiming Cotto is bigger then Leonard, lmao. Saying Hagler weighed in at 159 minimum for 95% of his career, really? lol, So how is it that Hagler weighed in under 159 lbs for 27% of all his fights?
And before you respond with ******ity, why don't you read the entire post. You got called out for being an internet gangstah, the ******ity that you keyboard vomit will no longer illicit a response from me. Enjoy your fantasy relationship with Marvelous.

[aboutfkntime]

Well if it's the same day weigh in yesterday fighters were less because they didn't have time to rehydrate...so **** gos your theory clunge

I did not propose a theory son.

I pointed out that Cotto weighs 153.

And, I pointed out that you are an idiot.