"Money" Mayweather vs "Good Boy" Golovkin @ 154 lbs / 11 Stone: Who wins?

[bigjavi973]

Except it's practically the exact same rules for the WBA as well (different process but GGG would be approved to fight for the 154 title even with no history there).

And that's exactly the point. Floyd could have very well chosen GGG and he chose not to (which is what I said). You're exact words were practically "he didn't choose GGG because he hasn't done anything at 154 to deserve a 154 title shot" (despite the fact that you don't need to do anything at 154 to get a title shot there).



If you knew how to read, you'd realize that WBC interim is considered a champion by WBC, making him eligible for the WBC title shot at 154 (which you said he shouldn't get because he has no history there).





I get that GGG hasn't done anything at 154 and not 1 person denied that if you know how to read. But you literally argued that he shouldn't get a chance to fight Floyd for a title because of his lack of history at 154 despite the fact that you need no history at that division to fight for that title.



So I'm a GGG groupie because I proved you wrong when you said that GGG doesn't deserve a title shot for the 154 title because he has no history at 154?

Also having a hard time where Ward is brought up at any time (remember, reading is your friend) so not sure how he fits into this conversation.

If you actually followed the conversation, you tried to shove your nose into a topic you have no clue about.

I said that Floyd didn't want to fight GGG at a weight where he's champion and for some reason, you come up with the reason that he didn't get a title fight because he doesn't have a history there and all I said was that you need no history whatsoever in a division to earn a title shot.

In case you're still having trouble understanding, I'll make it very clear. Golovkin EARNED a 154 title fight under WBC and WBA rules for the WBC/WBA title because of his work at the 160 division. Whether Floyd chooses to accept that is a different story but there's literally no way you can argue that GGG doesn't deserve a 154 title shot for the 154 titles, whether it's Floyd or someone else holding the title.

Like I said. Consider a wbc interim belt a "belt" if you want to

[Raonic]

Like I said. Consider a wbc interim belt a "belt" if you want to

That's how WBC classifies it and never once did I say that's how I viewed it. I don't make the rules.

You're just mad that you tried to bring up a point (that GGG didn't deserve a 154 title shot because he doesn't have a 154 history) and I dissected it completely (because it's already been proven you don't need to have a history to get a title shot at another weight division).

[bigjavi973]

That's how WBC classifies it and never once did I say that's how I viewed it. I don't make the rules.

You're just mad that you tried to bring up a point (that GGG didn't deserve a 154 title shot because he doesn't have a 154 history) and I dissected it completely (because it's already been proven you don't need to have a history to get a title shot at another weight division).

no shit example Cotto-Martinez. I picked Cotto to win, but I was still saying what did he do to deserve that title shot.

[Raonic]

no shit example Cotto-Martinez. I picked Cotto to win, but I was still saying what did he do to deserve that title shot.

Your performances in other divisions still count. You don't need to have a body of work at a division to "deserve" a title shot at that division.

[Bushbaby]

lol well say that then, nobody from 147-160 just outboxes Floyd with ease but yeah I can see the KO at this point in floyds career but if GGG goes down to 154 how will it effect him?

It would be bad. And G monster at 70% beats him badly too.

[LoadedWraps]

Like I said. Consider a wbc interim belt a "belt" if you want to

basically a paper champ.

[bigjavi973]

basically a paper champ.

[hugh grant]

Floyd just needs to survive 12 rounds whilst losing to GGG at 160 and Floyd will go down as a top 15 ATG. If he beats GGG Floyd will be top 10.

Without fighting GGG Floyd is bordering top 20. So its worth it. Being stopped wont effect floyds standing historically, other than Floyd will be known as brave rather than a coward. Surely that's got to be worth it.

[LoadedWraps]

Floyd just needs to survive 12 rounds whilst losing to GGG at 160 and Floyd will go down as a top 15 ATG. If he beats GGG Floyd will be top 10.

Without fighting GGG Floyd is bordering top 20. So its worth it. Being stopped wont effect floyds standing historically, other than Floyd will be known as brave rather a coward. Surely that's got to be worth it.

Floyd wouldn't duck GGG.

[hugh grant]

Im sure GGG could get down to 154, but whether he can perform at that weight is another story altogether.

Floyd said he would beat GGG, he would say that wouldn't he whilst not planning to fight GGG. But not sure whether Floyd means at 154 or 60.

If FLoyd is favourite at 154, he should take GGG on at 160. Being underdog will be good for Floyd.