Comments Thread For: Klitschko's Manager Very Open To a Povetkin Rematch

[Jewish-Reptile]

I have a horrible feeling that we're going to see Wladimir-Chagaev II next year, before Wilder or Povetkin. :durr1:

The WBA mandatory is gonna be at least 18 months after the WBA mandated Fury fight, that's how long it is supposed to take to come around, truth be told it'll likely be closer to 24 months by the time the order is enforced again. Chagaev is going to have to defend against Browne and likely Ortiz in that time, I don't see him getting past Ortiz personally, even Jennings would likely out point this version of Chagaev.

We'll get unification with Wilder before then IMO, I'm hopeful we'll have Wilder opting to unify against Klitschko before he has to face Povetkin.

On the topic of the Klitschko Povetkin rematch, Ryabinsky has previously stated current tensions between respective home nations make for the rematch being potentially powder keg and far from a bright notion. If the fight is to come to fruition again the referee from the Jennings Klitschko fight could be a good call, but personally I felt Jennings as Povetkin were to blame themselves as much as the champion for the ugly fights. Both came out of those losses with a lot of kudos, kinda like Chisora did against Vitali, even though both were made to look extremely poor in comparison to the current champ.

[saintpat]

It was a horrible fight and horribly refereed ... but the narrative that Wlad was initiating all the clinches is complete crap from people who either (a) have an agenda or (b) DKSAB.

Go watch and you will see:

1) Povetkin bulling in with his head down until it makes contact with Wlad's chest or belly.

2) When that happens, almost every time Sasha reaches his left hand around Klit's waist, under Wlad's right arm and around to the back, initiating the clinch.

3) Alternately, he swings his head under Wlad's right armpit.

There are a few times when Wlad initiates a clinch, but when either of the above happens it's Sasha who is tying up. Either tactic forces a situation where the only way there cannot be a clinch is if Klit holds his arms out away from his body or up in the air. If he doesn't do this, if he simply keeps them in normal position, they end up in a clinch.

VERY rarely does Povetkin ever punch when he gets close.

This happens in a lot of fights and somehow the guy getting clinched gets blamed for it by keyboard cowboys (either because they don't know any better or because they don't like the guy they blame for clinching). Happened the same way with Matthysse's last fight. Watch his left hand as soon as he gets close enough to make contact.

I will never understand why a fighter would try to get close to his opponent if he doesn't want to fight/punch when he gets there.

[BWC]

Well of course he is, it was an easy win for him. He totally blew Sasha out (15 point win with 4 knockdowns). He wants nothing to do with Wilders reach and power..

[beez721]

Well of course he is, it was an easy win for him. He totally blew Sasha out (15 point win with 4 knockdowns). He wants nothing to do with Wilders reach and power..

lol,,,,judging by the way wilder has looked in his last 2 fights wlad is probably afraid he'll literally kill him

[LacedUp]

Disgusting fight. Not sure if it's the worst fight i've seen, but definitely up there with Johnny Nelson vs Carlos de Leon.

[LacedUp]

The WBA mandatory is gonna be at least 18 months after the WBA mandated Fury fight, that's how long it is supposed to take to come around, truth be told it'll likely be closer to 24 months by the time the order is enforced again. Chagaev is going to have to defend against Browne and likely Ortiz in that time, I don't see him getting past Ortiz personally, even Jennings would likely out point this version of Chagaev.

We'll get unification with Wilder before then IMO, I'm hopeful we'll have Wilder opting to unify against Klitschko before he has to face Povetkin.

On the topic of the Klitschko Povetkin rematch, Ryabinsky has previously stated current tensions between respective home nations make for the rematch being potentially powder keg and far from a bright notion. If the fight is to come to fruition again the referee from the Jennings Klitschko fight could be a good call, but personally I felt Jennings as Povetkin were to blame themselves as much as the champion for the ugly fights. Both came out of those losses with a lot of kudos, kinda like Chisora did against Vitali, even though both were made to look extremely poor in comparison to the current champ.

Do the WBA actually mandate its regular champions to fight the super champion?

Fury is WBA #1, but what does that make Chagaev?

[Scipio*]

Jack Reiss should be the referee, he did a good job on Matthysse vs. Postol.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Do the WBA actually mandate its regular champions to fight the super champion?

Fury is WBA #1, but what does that make Chagaev?

It is supposed to be every 18 months, that much I recall. I think the WBA mandated Fury when the WBO mandated him (a) they (the WBA) were able to buy themselves another 18 months so that Chagaev would not be the regular champ Wlad would be to defend against again and (b) I think the organisation recognise the popularity of Fury and wanted to make money on the WBO mandated defence for Wladimir too.

The WBA make their shyt up as they go along, that's about the only constant I recognise with them. I remember Chagaev vs Povetkin contesting the belt Haye formally held as Wlad kinda absorbed it and was elevated to 'super' in the commentary that night it was said the winner had 18 months, I liken how it works personally if it is applied properly, the no.1 and no.2 guys going at it for a crack at the full title, look at one of Povetkin's mandatory defences during that time Rahman ! At least Povetkin disposed of him rather than us having to have Wlad having to face him, the regular holder kinda clears out all the scrubs in that 18 month period and you end up with the most deserving opponent realistically.

Chagaev was regular champ before Fury was named their no.1 ranked challenger, this whole farcical episode with Oquendo and Ruslan has gone on for over 12 months, from how it appears with Chagaev being inactive for over a year he is not being rewarded for what appears to be him trying to cheat his way through inactivity into another financially rewarding fight versus the champ. The WBA ordering Browne against Chagaev and the winner having to face the interim title holder winner between Jennings vs Ortiz creates a really worthy opponent. Lets just hope Ortiz emerges victorious at the end of these box offs as he appears to have the natural dimensions, power and skills to make for an interesting defence for the champion, these are the fights I want to see the champion fighting in, the likes of Parker, Joshua, Wilder and Ortiz are much more intriguing than the likes of Glazkov, Leapai and Pianeta.

[SlySlickSmooth]

Do the WBA actually mandate its regular champions to fight the super champion?

Fury is WBA #1, but what does that make Chagaev?

No, they completely bull****.

The last time I saw the Super fight the Regular was when Nonito Donaire chose to fight Nicholas Walters. WBA is a joke when it comes to mandatory fights.

How long has Keith Thurman held the WBA Regular Welterweight belt?

[Damn Wicked]

I'd be interested in them having a rematch.
If Wlad fights like he did for the first 3 rounds of their first fight it would be a good fight.
I like Klitschko a lot but I was a little put off by the holding in the Potvetkin fight.