Just rewatched Fury/Hammer...

[Ryn0]

Cunningham is underrated at HW.

Won against Mansour, first man to knock him down. Won the fights against Adamek & Glazkov but was robbed. A draw against a roided to the gills Tarver.

He'll never win a belt at HW, but I'd argue that he's top 10 even now.

I know Cunninghams history, but Adamek and Glazkov are small heavyweights and Cunningham has the skill but neither the size, chin or punch to mix it up. I think Chisora is the better Heavyweight, i don't see that version of Chisora (the one that lost to Fury the first time) losing to Hernandez twice.

Cunningham is by far the better fighter than Chisora but I don't believe he is the better Heavyweight.

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I think after the first right hand that dropped him in the 5th Chisora was essentially done.

He tried for sure and was in it for a while but after the second knockdown he was done.

I just don't think Chisora is that good.

He's not a world beater, but he's certainly not a bum, and wasn't considered so until Fury schooled him.

People don't realise that it was Fury's tactics that won him the fight so dominantly, not because Chisora suddenly become shot overnight. He was on the best winning streak of his career before he faced Fury for the second time.

[Fury4daWIN]

The heavyweight division needs a Bowe-Holyfield type fight. Hell, I'd settle for Bowe-Golota type fight or even a Sanders-Rahman type fight.

Something like that would wake it the **** up.

Fury vs Povetkin and Fury vs Pulev. There are your Bowe Holyfields and Bowe Golotas, or at least as good as you're going to get in this current division.

It's all about the matchmaking. Hopefully after Wlad retires, or is forced to retire, the division will open up. His very presence as king of the hill just seems to result in a stultifying atmosphere that trickles down to every other fighter in the division.

This new breed of fighters seems to be bringing back a return to form however, and it can't come too soon. Honestly, as dominant as Wlad is I'm just getting tired of him now. Time for some new blood.

[Left Hook Tua]

Cunningham is underrated at HW.

Won against Mansour, first man to knock him down. Won the fights against Adamek & Glazkov but was robbed. A draw against a roided to the gills Tarver.

He'll never win a belt at HW, but I'd argue that he's top 10 even now.

glazkov. small heavy.
mansour. 42 yrs.old and also a small hvy.
adamek. blown up cruiser like cunningham.
tarver. old blown up light hvy.

yeah. top 10 hvy. LOL

[Fury4daWIN]

I know Cunninghams history, but Adamek and Glazkov are small heavyweights and Cunningham has the skill but neither the size, chin or punch to mix it up. I think Chisora is the better Heavyweight, i don't see that version of Chisora (the one that lost to Fury the first time) losing to Hernandez twice.

Cunningham is by far the better fighter than Chisora but I don't believe he is the better Heavyweight.

Cunningham gets a lot of stick for a number of reasons. He's relatively feather fisted, has a lot of apparent losses on his record, and even in victory never seems to outright dominate people the way some heavyweights do. He's always been a grinder, albeit one with a lot of skill and heart to burn. It takes more than just a cursory analysis to see how good he is, yet at the same time it's easy to overrate him with phantom victories over opponents whom he really should have done better against in order to secure the victory (Glazkov and Tarver for instance).

He's a very solid lower-tier top ten heavyweight in my opinion, not the most staggeringly awesome name to have on one's resume but nowhere near the joke Fury detractors like to claim he is.

[Ryn0]

I think after the first right hand that dropped him in the 5th Chisora was essentially done.

He tried for sure and was in it for a while but after the second knockdown he was done.

I just don't think Chisora is that good.

In all fairness no matter what you think of Haye, there are very very few people who can take a clean Haye right hand/left hook and stay standing.

[Ryn0]

Cunningham gets a lot of stick for a number of reasons. He's relatively feather fisted, has a lot of apparent losses on his record, and even in victory never seems to outright dominate people the way some heavyweights do. He's always been a grinder, albeit one with a lot of skill and heart to burn. It takes more than just a cursory analysis to see how good he is, yet at the same time it's easy to overrate him with phantom victories over opponents whom he really should have done better against in order to secure the victory (Glazkov and Tarver for instance).

He's a very solid lower-tier top ten heavyweight in my opinion, not the most staggeringly awesome name to have on one's resume but nowhere near the joke Fury detractors like to claim he is.

I don't think it really matters, outside of Povetkin/Wlad, Fury and Wilder (who I think is shte anyway but people seem to rate him) there aren't that many people you can put on a HW resume and think thats a really good win. Maybe Haye if he came back and proved his fitness.

Fury despite being bigger than Wlad will just try and get in the inside and maul the dude, he is in my opinion the best inside fighter the HW division has seen for a while. He is a bit lazy and awkward on the outside but I can see the things he is trying to do. I expect Fury to win, unless Wlad lands that right on him coming in. Most excited I've been for a HW fight since Haye-Klit.

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Cunningham is underrated at HW.

Won against Mansour, first man to knock him down. Won the fights against Adamek & Glazkov but was robbed. A draw against a roided to the gills Tarver.

He'll never win a belt at HW, but I'd argue that he's top 10 even now.

glazkov. small heavy.
mansour. 42 yrs.old and also a small hvy.
adamek. blown up cruiser like cunningham.
tarver. old blown up light hvy.

yeah. top 10 hvy. LOL

Name me 9 HWs who would beat him.




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[Left Hook Tua]

Name me 9 HWs who would beat him.




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i will when you learn how to use the quote function.

[Fury4daWIN]

glazkov. small heavy.
mansour. 42 yrs.old and also a small hvy.
adamek. blown up cruiser like cunningham.
tarver. old blown up light hvy.

yeah. top 10 hvy. LOL

What's wrong with being a small heavy? Haye was small, so is Povetkin, so is Jennings. Arreola might weigh 240lbs plus but he's a disgrace. So are a lot of guys at that weight.