Is it too late for Golovkin to become a star?

[UNBIASED BOXING]

um, how do you figure? most of the people who bought golovkin-lemieux probably also bought canelo-lara. even if we were optimistic and just added the canelo-lara and golovkin-lemieux numbers together we'd still only get 500k, so where does the extra 250k+ come from?

You don't just add two numbers together and assume that's the maximum number of viewers a fighter gets. You look at who's fighting, the demographics, and the potential. People want to see star fighters going at it, but more than that, they want to see a toss up match up that has the appeal to be brutal/interesting/exciting.

Not just that, but this fight would be setup after a post-Canelo victory (assuming he wins). I don't think Canelo vs Cotto pulls in less than 900,000 views, and carrying a win over Cotto to a fight vs Golovkin would setup a huge fight (maybe not as big as the Cotto fight, though).



For instance:

FMjr vs ODLH pulled 2.4 million PPV buys. Floyd had never cracked 400,000 PPV buys before in his first 3 PPV fights. At this point in time, ODLH was a star, but the maximum PPV numbers he pulled was 8 years ago at 1.4 million vs Trinidad. A year prior to that, he did 925,000 vs Mayorga, and before that, 1 million in his defeat to Hopkins.

[bluebeam]

Not at all, no one can touch him at MW for years.

Golovkin is going to blow up, he's just getting started.

he has no opponents to blow up against at 160.

without canelo or cotto, ggg is ****ed at 160.

Jacobs and quillin fights will never happen and nobody gives a damn about lee vs ggg.

chavez jr stopped andy lee so we know what golovkin will do to him.

unless he gets canelo or cotto he will be moving up sooner than later. and even then, the one guy at 168 that people wanna see him fight will be fighting at 175.

degale,jack,abraham,lee,johnson,heiland,saunders none of these guys will help ggg blow up

[bluebeam]

Nobody in boxing will be a superstar in the USA, Canelo is a superstar in Mexico his last fight was watch by 23 million people in mexico..

USA is UFC country

ufc has only cracked 1 million ppv buys 8 times in 192 ppv events.

Floyd cracked 1 million ppv buys 7 times in 15 ppv events.

usa is ufc country doe

[Weebler I]

he has no opponents to blow up against at 160.

without canelo or cotto, ggg is ****ed at 160.

Jacobs and quillin fights will never happen and nobody gives a damn about lee vs ggg.

chavez jr stopped andy lee so we know what golovkin will do to him.

unless he gets canelo or cotto he will be moving up sooner than later. and even then, the one guy at 168 that people wanna see him fight will be fighting at 175.

degale,jack,abraham,lee,johnson,heiland,saunders none of these guys will help ggg blow up

There's a vacuum at the top, Golovkin will fill it.

I don't see him moving up, he's effectively a PPV fighter at 160 now.

Financially, only Froch could provide the incentive to move up and that isn't happening.

[The Big Dunn]

It will be hard if GGG doesn't step up and beat someone people perceive is better than him. He can keep beating the guys at 160, but will real boxing fans (the ones that put the sport ahead of nationalism/race) respect that considering 160 is seen as weak.

GGG has the charisma, amateur skills and the power to be a force at any weight. IMO he will not be the star he could be unless he steps up the competition.

[Lester Tutor]

It will be hard if GGG doesn't step up and beat someone people perceive is better than him. He can keep beating the guys at 160, but will real boxing fans (the ones that put the sport ahead of nationalism/race) respect that considering 160 is seen as weak.

GGG has the charisma, amateur skills and the power to be a force at any weight. IMO he will not be the star he could be unless he steps up the competition.

This is true. I mean from legends or HAF's this seems to be the defacto-bonafide route to truly being p4p. I mean even little Roman Gonzalez has swerved 3 weight classes..

However, i don't mind GGG staying at 160 and unifiying all the belts. He still needs to face Quillin, Lee, and Jacobs. If he can catch a ring mover like Cotto and out punch Lavarez then he is convincingly an all time great at 160 after Hagler. Because Hagler had already beaten some undisputed 160 fighters even before reaching the age of 30.

New generation of internet fans ironically cant get free empirical resumes on the web and realistically compare. Theory and fanboyism is more practical.

[The Big Dunn]

This is true. I mean from legends or HAF's this seems to be the defacto-bonafide route to truly being p4p. I mean even little Roman Gonzalez has swerved 3 weight classes..

However, i don't mind GGG staying at 160 and unifiying all the belts. He still needs to face Quillin, Lee, and Jacobs. If he can catch a ring mover like Cotto and out punch Lavarez then he is convincingly an all time great at 160 after Hagler. Because Hagler had already beaten some undisputed 160 fighters even before reaching the age of 30.

New generation of internet fans ironically cant get free empirical resumes on the web and realistically compare. Theory and fanboyism is more practical.

I think beating ward means more right now than beating Canelo and cotto. It isn't worth more, but it means more.

Besides, cotto and Canelo may not choose to fight GG next and then he gets what, an Andy Lee fight for the MW title belt.

[Crazylegs77]

According to reports, last weekends PPV did around 150,000. GGG is approaching 34 years of age, is he too old to become a household name? A PPV star?

GGG is on the right track, apple commercial, first PPV, always win in impressive fashion. I do think they should have priced the PPV at 19.99 to draw in more buys. Also it probably does hurt him that his english is still not improving so he cant really do late night interview shows etc. If he gets the winner of Canelo/Cotto and wins in impressive fashion it will be a huge boost for him though.

[xhiddenx87]

Yes to be a real star. is too late. But it all depends at what age he retires.

at 40 would be a good couple of years to having step ups and sell alot more.

in the meantime K2 could get some names under their brand and try to be competitive with other promotions.

[Jedi Vader]

GGG is a poor mans Martinez.

At GGG's age now, Martinez went on to fight Williams (2), Pavlik, Chavez and Cotto. Unless GGG discovers his scrotum and fights these kind of names in the next 6 years, he'll never be a great.